Thank you, Aramel!! Honestly, this whole "The Chameleons are annoying everyone with their changing" is driving me insane. I am a proud Chameleon, and I've been looking forward to this Chameleon fest for a long time now. We've put a lot of hard work and planning into this, and it's only for fun. Our club, as Lothy said, is dedicated to change! We're changing our names and our sigs, yes, but with our normal names in plain view, it shouldn't be a problem. The point of these fests is to put our club out there and just have fun being connected by a common theme.

I'm actually quite proud of our club for being so active. We're unique, we're proud, and we're unusual. I know many of you don't agree with us on this, but I love how our club is having events and becoming closer together during all of the in depth planning. I admit it's fun to confuse people, but I certainly don't want people to feel dumb. Coming from an outside view, it would be pretty confusing, but part of the fun is to get people to want to join us! I just had no idea this would turn into such a big deal.

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Wow. I guess I'm a slow typist because JF just posted before me. JF, I think since the last fest was our first in a long time, we didn't have any rules about having our name in our signatures. I think some of us just decided to do it, while others didn't. If this isn't mentioned in our club, I'll definitely make sure it's addressed.

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SilverRose - I think no one is criticising the Club but obviously the whole name changing did come across as confusing last time and some people just didn't like that confusion.

I think if I would start a club for all Dutch members and on our anniversairy we would talk for a day Dutch to every member on the board some people would be annoyed too It's the confusion which is not so pleasant.

So no hard feelings against the club

But I guess since the Chameleons are putting their names in their signature everything is solved now..?

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Will - I can definitely see how Dutch would become confusing. That's a good example, and now that I've calmed down, I can see what you're talking about. I told the club that the name in our sigs needs to become a rule, and I don't think there will be a problem. I hope everything is all right now! I'm sorry for getting all defensive like that.

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If all of you are going to put your real usernames in your signatures that's good. But last time the majority if you did NOT so those are the events I've been referring to.


No one is forbidding you to have your fun. Some of us are just commenting on what you call fun. Because it affects us too.


You may think I'm being silly or overreacting or blowing this way out of proportion. Fine. Think that all you want. But I know for a fact I'm not alone on this. And why shouldn't negative comments also be allowed to be expressed here? This is something that's been bothering me for quite some time. Obviously it's not a big issue to you because you're in on the fun! When you plan an event that will affect the whole forum in one way or another it's not "only the business of the Chameleons" anymore. You're not forcing anyone to join but you're forcing us to be subjected to the celebrations. That's my issue with it. And with the Hallowfest and Yule Ball Masquerade alike.

But if you all are planning to put your original usernames in your signature, unlike last time, then that's a whole different story.

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It would be priceless wouldn't it? Just to see some reactions over here. Lol.. no I think that it would make a pathetic club. We Dutchies are almost extinct in the world of AU Although Aerlinn did return today.. so that would make two.. Hmm it could have potential..


Sorry for the off- topicness XD

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As far as new members go, it might be better for whatever image we have to show them that we don't argue over little things like this every time someone gets confused and can't just ask politely what's going on. The Chameleon Club is the only club founded on bringing completely different, often times opposite, people together instead of people with similar interests, and we're the most active when it comes to promoting ourselves. When I was new to the club, I thought it was brilliant, it didn't scare me away, and it might very well be the same for other new members.

I think everyone's pretty much said what needs to be said already. It will be made a rule that if we do anything involving name-changing, we need to put our regular names in our signatures in plain view.

Since we're one of very few clubs that have ever done things like this[to my knowledge], this all has probably caused more drama than it should have. Hopefully the new club rule will resolve the issue, but if it doesn't than I encourage anyone who still thinks we're in the wrong to speak to a moderator. Again, we're not breaking any rules.

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Well I'm glad to see this has been (for the most part) resolved in less than 24 hours. That's what I love about this place.

I'm not going to go back and put in my two cents worth on every comment, but I will say that we'll definitely be putting our names in our siggies this time.




(( And to you Dutch people, I personally think that'd be hilarious. I can even see how that'd be good for us, we'd have to go translate it on an online translator, and hey, maybe we'd be inspired to learn Dutch. ))

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I agree with JF. This is not an argument but an discussion. No one is attacking anybody, but one may express stronger opinions than others

Edit: Shadowcat - Well than this discussion might inspire me to create a club like that and gather all Dutchies around here. And we'll have a fest at lets say every 10 pages because everyone is so eager to learn Dutch
I'm actually wondering how far you'll get with an online translator

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OK, I'm just a little bit confused as to what all this name changing business is for.


From over in the club page:



OK, so from what I can tell, the Chameleon Club want to change their names to confuse people. But if you've all got your names in your signatures then people aren't going to be confused so the whole point of it is pretty moot.
I apologise if it's about something else but from what I can tell from this topic and the club thread the whole point of this celebration thing is to confuse people. But it won't be confusing if your names are in your signatures. So what's the point of doing it?!
Like I said, I apologise if I'm wrong but that's how it appears to me. (Bearing in mind I'm dyslexic so I might have interprets things differently to what they were suppose to mean.)

Anyhow, if confusion is what you seek to spread, then congrats because I am completely confuzzled by this.

Oh, BTW I don't have issues with changing banners/usernames I just don't see the point of this celebration. And for the record I hadn't (and still haven't) got a clue what the Hallowfest was about. That was incredibly confusing when SilverRose had made me some banners but when I went to get them it was Bubbles who gave them to me. Now I knew she was the same person (I'm not that stupid) but I had no idea what the Hallowfest was so I actually thought she's changed her name to that for good so I was rather confused as to what name I should credit the banners too in my sig. (At least I think it was SilverRose. My memory might be playing up.) I discovered what the Hallowfest was when it ended and all the Hallowfest banners started to appear. The Masquerade I kinda got seeing as I decided to get involved with the Christmas celebrations so was actually in that area of the forums but I had no idea what was going on during the Hallowfest. OK, I suppose I could have asked but then I would have appeared stupid to all the old-time A-Uers who've been around for years and don't seam to realise or just forget that us newcomers do need stuff explaining to us. I know that's not true but that's what it feels like when you're new. It is incredibly intimidating so maybe as a rule for every name change thing, a participant puts their usual username in their sig and also something like "Confused about the name change? See here: etc" because even though people might mention the Hallowfest/Masquerade/Chameleon Club in their sigs people might not realise that the name change and the events are related. I didn't.


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Oh and if there is going to be a Dutch Club then I am so going to do a Welsh Club!

SECOND EDIT:
Just remembered the whole point about the Masquerade is to be completely anonymous (see, I told you my memory is bad! ) but still a participant could still put "Taking part in the Masquerade" in their sig or something.

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Hahaha, I agree with everything Hravan said... thanks for pointing out the pointlessness of it, cause it actually doesn't make much sense to me either.

Why's it considered a celebration anyway? I change my username pretty much all the time (always have my original name in my sig though, so everyone knows I'm Haldir) and I change my banner/av pretty often as well. But I'm definitely not part of your little celebration thing. So um, this fest is for the purpose of celebrating mass user name/picture change or something?


FYI... that's pretty much the purpose of the quote function. I think I'm pretty mature for being able to grasp that;)

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Hravan, we're changing our names because we want to. Yes, it's fun to confuse people and I would prefer to be completely anonymous, but everyone can't be happy in this situation. We've come to a compromise. The Chameleons will have their great changing fest, and AUers will be able to know who everyone is.

The Chameleon club is not about confusing people. We all joined the club because we always change our sig sets on a regular basis. I change mine about every 3-5 days, and all of the members change theirs more often than other AUers do. This name/set changing thing is to celebrate our club's 200th page, and it's to bring our regular changing to a more extreme level. We've already made it a rule that our regular user names will be in our sig sets so everyone will know who we are, and teh Chameleons can still have their Chameleotic fun. Plus, you'll know we're all Chameleons because our names are along the lines of "Cham the Chameleon" or "Charlie the Chameleon." If this doesn't make sense, someone or myself can explain more.

Jarisleif, you seem like someone who would be a Chameleon. You certainly don't have to be, but you do exactly what we do on a normal basis. Except our names, besides Lothy's and Tar's, typically stay the same.

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^Hahah sis, we really do think along similar wavelengths. I was slightly upset because of the lack of anonymity, because I just have fun confusing people, and I thought that was the point of this whole shindig. But I didn't realize that people were so upset about this. So, really, I guess the put-your-name-in-your-sig rule is a good thing.

I was under the impression that, to be a chameleon, it wasn't only your sig that changed. Because my sig doesn't change as often as other chameleons, but my favorite colors and movies and such do...

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Well, I think that other things can change besides our sets. I don't change very much except for that, but everyone has their own form of change. I have to say that I'm insanely proud to be a Chameleon!

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