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Post subject: Posted: October 24th, 2005, 8:57 pm |
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Kitoky wrote: Fred and George? I don't see JKR killing them off. Sirius, yes. Dumbledore, yes. Fred and George? Nah. It's not worth the sheets of paper. Both deaths of Sirius and Dumbledore produced a huge effect on the main character, HARRY. The potential deaths of Fred and George will effect, Ron, Mrs. Weasley, the Weasleys --- mainly, but it doesn't put evolutional growth on Harry.
Those were huge significant deaths because they were only the first deaths in the book and they all focused on Harry. That wasn't the real war.
The 7th book is a literally a war. There are going to be casualties, and more then 1 person is going to die in this book - I'm guessing 3 or 4 at least. I think that if the twins happen to be included in this, it will be one of them who would die and then we'd see the effect it had the the surviving twin. I'm not convinced that either of them will die actually I'm just saying that it could happen....though it's much more likely that one of the Weasley parents will die. In fact I'm close to positive that one of them will.
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Post subject: Posted: October 26th, 2005, 5:04 pm |
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Hmmm...[thinks]
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Post subject: Posted: October 27th, 2005, 2:09 pm |
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Beriadanwen wrote: Kitoky wrote: Fred and George? I don't see JKR killing them off. Sirius, yes. Dumbledore, yes. Fred and George? Nah. It's not worth the sheets of paper. Both deaths of Sirius and Dumbledore produced a huge effect on the main character, HARRY. The potential deaths of Fred and George will effect, Ron, Mrs. Weasley, the Weasleys --- mainly, but it doesn't put evolutional growth on Harry. Those were huge significant deaths because they were only the first deaths in the book and they all focused on Harry. That wasn't the real war. The 7th book is a literally a war. There are going to be casualties, and more then 1 person is going to die in this book - I'm guessing 3 or 4 at least. I think that if the twins happen to be included in this, it will be one of them who would die and then we'd see the effect it had the the surviving twin. I'm not convinced that either of them will die actually I'm just saying that it could happen....though it's much more likely that one of the Weasley parents will die. In fact I'm close to positive that one of them will.
I don't want any of the Weasleys to die
But I think is a possibility that it's going to happen.
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Post subject: Posted: October 27th, 2005, 6:52 pm |
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Well, the possiblility of a Weasly dying is pretty high for this last book. Frankly, I'm surprised none HAVE died yet! Like a lot of you have said, probably one of the parents. Fred and George....hmm. Not too sure on that one. I mean it would literally be tragic if they died. Seriously, I think I could cope more with Ron dying than one of the twins. I know that's horrible, but the likelihood of Ron dying of the twins is a lot higher. So. I have to agree with Beriwaden. Book 7 is a war. People inevitably die, even if it's someone we really, really, really don't want to. But it happens. In the midst of many deaths, I say at LEAST one Weasley die.
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Post subject: Posted: October 28th, 2005, 4:12 pm |
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I have a feeling, it's somehow going to be Percy....
And as much as I love and despise Percy at the same time, I don't want him to die..
I would like see George and Fred realize that they shouldn't take family for granted, and that they should cherish having a family even though they don't have that much money or thier parents aren't exactly fond of them dropping out of school and starting their own shop --- it'd make them want to be closer to their family. But then, Percy's in the same situation.
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Post subject: Posted: October 28th, 2005, 6:30 pm |
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Beriadanwen wrote: The 7th book is a literally a war. There are going to be casualties, and more then 1 person is going to die in this book - I'm guessing 3 or 4 at least.
Only 3 or 4? From what I've heard, Jo said Book 7's epilogue would tell who survived. When you frame it that way, it seems likely that more than half the characters die, since if more survived than died, she'd probably say that the epilogue would tell who died. So, I'm guessing we're looking at quite a few deaths
Anyone read the theory that Ron will die at the hand of Bellatrix? There was an article on Mugglenet about how the chess game in Book 1 is symbolic, and that the "faceless" white chess pieces represent the Death Eaters, and since Bellatrix is Voldy's closest female counterpart, she's the "queen." And since the white queen "destroys" Ron in the game, there's a theory that she'll kill him for real. Poor Ronniekins...
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Post subject: Posted: October 28th, 2005, 6:49 pm |
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Woah, that's nice analogy Arwen. Never really thought of back in the 1st book...
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Post subject: Posted: October 28th, 2005, 6:51 pm |
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Hmm... there is a good possibility that one of the Weasly will die, I mean look what happened to Bill. I'm kind of hoping that none of them will die though, I like them all. But as you've all said book 7 is mostly an all out war book.
Awww... Ronnie dying.. that would be horrible!! Good theory though, it makes sense and that's something Jo might do. I also think that maybe Ron and Hermoine will survive whlie Harry dies.. but that's because i'm pretty sure that Harry dies.. which will be devestating..
Has anyone thought maybe the twins will start making things for the Order. Like how Malfoy used their one product. Something like that, that would give the Order the advantage over the death eaters. I dunno, I'm thinking maybe the twins'll step it up a notch and help in some way... it wouldn't be like them to stand by and watch their family die..
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Post subject: Posted: October 29th, 2005, 4:25 pm |
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Roger Davies wrote: I had accidentally read a spoiler, which was posted on an un-Harry-Potter related website, so I knew about how Dumbledore died and stuff, but I still stared at the page in shock when I saw it.
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2005, 12:58 am |
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Tanthoronial wrote: Awww... Ronnie dying.. that would be horrible!! Good theory though, it makes sense and that's something Jo might do. I also think that maybe Ron and Hermoine will survive whlie Harry dies.. but that's because i'm pretty sure that Harry dies.. which will be devestating.
But if Harry dies then Voldemort will win because of the prophecy. I don't Jo would do that... but I do think that one of his close friends will die.
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2005, 11:11 am |
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Everyone says that Voldemort is definately going to die and I was saying that too but I'm not sure. Jo kept on telling us in the books that death wasn't the worst thing that could happen to you so I don't see how she could turn around and have Voldemort be killed by Harry. That's what the prophecy says but Dumbledore said that not all prophecys have to come true. So....I don't know I'm confused
I think there will be some kinda twist ending and neither Harry or Voldemort will die.
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Post subject: Posted: October 30th, 2005, 2:38 pm |
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Taurquende wrote: Tanthoronial wrote: Awww... Ronnie dying.. that would be horrible!! Good theory though, it makes sense and that's something Jo might do. I also think that maybe Ron and Hermoine will survive whlie Harry dies.. but that's because i'm pretty sure that Harry dies.. which will be devestating. But if Harry dies then Voldemort will win because of the prophecy. I don't Jo would do that... but I do think that one of his close friends will die.
Well, I have to agree with Taurquende about Ron and Hermoine surviving while Harry dies. You know, it is very possible that Voldemort DOES in fact win. Yes, yes. I know that's a horrible thing...but it's very possible, and more of a realist approach. (ha ha ha - taking my int'l relations class into account here - ha ha ha) But like I've said before, I do believe Harry is going to die at the hand of Voldemort; but I also said that Voldemort is going to die at the hands of Harry. Thus good triumphs, but at a cost. Okay, enough on that.
I like the thought on Fred and George helping out the Order with stuff - sounds like something they might do . . . maybe accidentally. And I like the analogy of the chess game. So maybe Hermoine might be the only one who survives (she's smart enough). Ha ha ha.
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Post subject: Posted: November 2nd, 2005, 2:11 pm |
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Beriadanwen wrote: I think there will be some kinda twist ending and neither Harry or Voldemort will die.
I don't know, I have a feeling that both will kick the bucket. Warning: the following statement I could care less about (I'm not a person who judged people by their religion), but it makes an interesting point: Jo has said that she's a Christian, but she doesn't want that fact publicized, because then readers will know how the story ends. Now, I have no idea when she said this, or in what context, but it does make it sound a bit like Harry won't survive. Just a thought.
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Post subject: Posted: November 2nd, 2005, 2:41 pm |
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Arwen the webmaster wrote: Beriadanwen wrote: I think there will be some kinda twist ending and neither Harry or Voldemort will die. I don't know, I have a feeling that both will kick the bucket. Warning: the following statement I could care less about (I'm not a person who judged people by their religion), but it makes an interesting point: Jo has said that she's a Christian, but she doesn't want that fact publicized, because then readers will know how the story ends. Now, I have no idea when she said this, or in what context, but it does make it sound a bit like Harry won't survive. Just a thought.
hmmm I never heard about that; interesting but it means nothing to me cause I know very little about christianity hehe. Yeah they might both die. I think either they'll both die or they'll both live.
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Post subject: Posted: November 2nd, 2005, 3:19 pm |
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Hmm... If she really did say that then I think the ending will only have a very obscure link with Christianity. Saying something like if it Christianity played an important role in the planned ending of Harry Potter would be far more spoilerish than simply letting people know she's a Christian. And J. K. Rowling really doesn't like giving away spoilers  For her last book she took legal action to prevent anyone publishing it before it published. So I don't think it'll be something obvious like anyone dying and then coming back to life.
Oh and on the topic of obscure links does anyone know what hint is given in the POA film as to who the half blood prince was? J. K. Rowling said before HBP came out that you could find it there.
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Post subject: Posted: November 4th, 2005, 3:16 pm |
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Dunno Elanor, I watched PoA only once
And if JKR kills F & G, then she better be afraid of me! 
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