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Jax Nova
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 Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: Elvish Phrases
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I was just looking around and I found this website.
http://www.grey-company.org/Circle/language/phrase.htm
It's got tons of elvish phrases on it and I was wondering if anyone could tell me whether they are acurate or not.
If so it would be a great resource I'd think! |
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maxx
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In my shifty memory of Quenya and Sindarin there are a couple of things.
The é's and all those dots/marks above the letters are not there.
There is not a noted difference mentioned if its quenya or sindarin(since its not marked with Q/S after/before the words)
and then there is the occasional mis-spelling, which could be just typo's. |
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Hravan
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:01 pm Post subject:
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Avoid! Avoid! Avoid!
The Grey Company is a RPG Elvish site. It's an RPG Elvish language created for the game based very losely upon Tolkien's languages. It is most definitely NOT Sindarin or Quenya.
Check out their FAQs
http://www.grey-company.org/FAQ/#language
Our very own A-U.com elvish section has advice about this site:
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Many web sites attempt to teach Elvish, and Grey Company is one of them. Their Elvish, sometimes called "Grelvish", is not really Elvish at all. The site says it is loosely based on Tolkien's Quenya--it is VERY loosely based. Grelvish is very widespread--type in "Elvish phrases" on a search engine, and half the sites you'll come up with will be Grelvish. What's wrong with Grelvish? It has grammatical mistakes all over. Examples: they say amin means "I, me, or my" (there are actually words for each of them), they say verbs do not conjugate (instead of "I am, you are, it is...", Grelvish says it would be "I is, you is, it is"), they say namárië is spelled namaarie, and they say imperative (commanding) verbs end with "a"--they end with "o" (as in lasto "listen", tíro "look", and edro "open"). Some of the more popular Grelvish phrases are "Amin mela lle", "Auta miqula orqu", "Lasta lalaithamin", and "Arwen-en-amin". None of the Elvish words or phrases given in this section are Grelvish. |
http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/elvish/intro.html
A-U has a great section on Elvish phrases ( http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/elvish/phrases.html ) and there are links there to other great sites as well.  |
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Meganelf
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 11:20 am Post subject:
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Question, then.
Are there any sites (or even books) that have an accurate grammatical guide and/or word to word dictionary?
I know A-U has a good introduction and phrases, but not really a concrete guide to grammar.
Any help? |
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Manveru
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| Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject:
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| Try Council of Elrond. For beginning Sindarin and Quenya language tutorials and Ardalambion (sorry, no link) for an advanced Quenya course. |
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Eä
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:47 am Post subject:
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Here is the link to Ardalambion, a quite extended and advanced Elvish site. In fact, it's so elaborated I've always been in awe over it..
http://folk.uib.no/hnohf/ |
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