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Post subject:  Posted: August 22nd, 2009, 7:59 pm |
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Oh, no. You like Locke?  I really, really don't like that guy.  Haha, they're sweet... but, I dunno. All the pairings are sweet. Haha, that wast cute. I like their scene in season 4 a lot, actually.  He is squeeful. Yeah, Charlie's kind of on and off, really. Cute with Claire, though.
Hm, true. I think he was happy with Cassidy, though. At least.  Yes, exactly! They're all cute, but, the charries and LOST writers seem so fickle and just... too many of 'em.
He's a mastermind.
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Post subject: Posted: August 26th, 2009, 6:56 pm |
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Comment on TT‘s comment: Charlie is cute with Claire except during the "I don't want you around my baby, you're a liar Charlie, go away!" stuff. Ugh, I hate that junk. 
anyway, I am extremely happy to be here. On one side I have SR who doesn't mind Locke and hates Jack... and on the other I have TT who... umm, I dunno really.  no, seriously. it's all good. I just am happy to know that I'm not the only one who sometimes wants to throw Jack out of a window.  except in season 5. Then he gets sorta neat... til the end with the whole "we have to set the bomb off!!!!!!" stuff... and Jack is pretty much totally selfish throughout the whole first part. Oh well.
on pairings - I personally think Ben/Juliet (Bennet) was the only true and deep pairing! no, seriously, I like Bennet and Suliet but I dunno... the true and deep ones like Sun/Jin and Desmond/Penny are ones I adore a lot. Actually, Desmond/Penny is my favorite epic love story in LOST.
BEN LINUS RULES! *huggles him close* I am totally thinking of changing my siggie to either a Ben and Alex banner or just plain Ben. 
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Post subject: Posted: August 27th, 2009, 7:18 am |
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Omg.
Omg..
*stares at the screen in horror*
They.. just killed Alex.
Why? Why?!
Omg..
I don't dare to put it back on play again..
Nooooooo  _________________
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Post subject: Posted: August 27th, 2009, 7:07 pm |
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PD, oh yes, I almost always want to throw Jack somewhere icky. The only times I like him are when he's with Juliet. She's so awesome that she makes him ok. Speaking of Jacket, I'll rant on Skate right now. WHAT IS KATE'S PROBLEM??????? Oh my goodness, girl! Way to use Sawyer when you're still jealous about Juliet and Jack when you already made your stinking choice! Me no likes Kate anymore. I knew she did that to Sawyer, but I didn't think it would be so awful! Sawyer tried to cover up his hurt by being all pervy, but it was so obvious that she really hurt him. And when you hurt my Sawyer...  I'm still a Skate fan, but that really made me hate Kate. Up to that point, they were adorable.
Ben/Juliet did have that slightly awesome scene when she's crying and briefly puts her head on his shoulder. Not that she likes him there or anything, but I did notice something cute.  Desmond/Penny is adorable! I loves them muchly. *huggles*
I really REALLY love Alex. I know she gets killed off (as Will just brought up), but I can't see why they'd do that. _________________ 
i'm back for a little! i'll see how this visit goes.
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Post subject: Posted: August 28th, 2009, 2:05 pm |
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Lol Skate and Jackiet have rly let me down haha cuz they've all been with each other which is just weird+they're all sort of annoying me.
alex's death STUNNED me. I was just like... oh.my.goodness.....AHHHHHHHH.. i didn't think that guy was actually going to shoot her. i just couldn't believe that her boyfriend carl, her mother, and her would all die so close on time to one another!!
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Post subject: Posted: August 30th, 2009, 5:35 pm |
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Okay.. So I just finished Season 4.. And it was awesome!
Just some things I noticed:
SPOILERS for people who didn't watch season 4 yet:
- I thought that this season was much more intense than the previous one.. so full of emotion, mysteries and answers.
- I love how Sawyer became more social and leaderlike and how he tried to protect Claire and Hurley
- I actually got to appreciate and pity Ben.. poor Alex
- Jack is just über awesome.. I love him.. and I really adore how he loves Kate. Kate and Jack should be a couple (Sorry PD )
- Desmond and Penny are just SQUEE!! They are my favourite couple..
- Jack is awesome
- Wha the heck was wrong with Claire to leave Aaron and run off into the jungle?
- Does Richard never get old? I mean he looks the same as when he met little Ben in the jungle 
- Sawyer looks really cute when he's about to do something out of kindness or love for someone else, like jumping about of helicopters. He pulls such an angry face
- Poor Sun.. and Jin
- I'm glad Sayid found Nadia
- Did I already mention Jack is awesome? _________________
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Post subject: Posted: August 30th, 2009, 8:26 pm |
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I just saw 3x20 and was completely creeped out by Ben and "Jacob". Intrigued, I looked Jacob out and found out completely random stuff about him.  I would have preferred not to know that beforehand because it's just too weird to understand. Really, what I read sounded like the writers just got bored and decided to create something out of a Greek mythology story. Now I shall try to forget everything I just read.
And...and my Sawyer killed Tom Sawyer/Locke's dad! NOOOOO!!!!! I was begging for him not to do it, even though I knew he would. The look on his face physically hurt me. I ached for him.  I skipped the actual killing. That was just too intense for me. *ish sad for Sawyer and what he did*
This whole "Jack is secretive and not trustworthy anymore" thing is greatly annoying me. Through this all, the one character I know I can trust is Sayid. Although I don't think about it much, Sayid is one of my favorites. He knows all. I've trusted Juliet, too, and she seems to be good for now. And even if she wasn't, I'd still love her. Oh, and I always love Sawyer, regardless of what he does. heehee
Kate is a bum and I can't stand her anymore. PD, I'm on your side with this one. Because Sawyer loves her I don't want anything to happen to her, but she's not one of my favorites anymore.  _________________
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Post subject: Posted: September 17th, 2009, 11:26 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: September 18th, 2009, 4:36 am |
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Aah! The Lost thread is revived by the most avid Benlover I know 
Did you watch season's 5 final JF? Then I think there might be some things I would like to discuss
Spoilers:
- Who on earth is the Locke who planned to kill Jacob? Jacob's adversary from the beginning of the episode?
- But if the dead cannot return, someone must have 'taken' Cristian's body as well. Who is he?
- Why doesn't Richard age?
- Did Jacob's visit to the Losties mean they are special? That they have some purpose and are to survive? Does that mean that Juliet is going to die?
Just some thoughts..
Lets discuss _________________
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Post subject: Posted: September 18th, 2009, 12:59 pm |
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Yay!
Yes, I saw it last night... ARGH! Evil, evil ending. I wasn't sure if you had seen it yet Will so I didn't menton anything. But now I know.....
****SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS*****
First of all, I have to have my little rant. My favourite romances in LOST are Desmond/Penny and Sun/Jin. Why? Because Desmond and Penny have had problems but their love has endured and Sun and Jin have also had problems, although completely different ones and their love has grown and developed.
My main problem with the Kate/Jack/Sawyer/Juliet thing (mainly the Kate/Jack/Sawyer triangle) as it was clear from day one of the island, it was like two men who noticed a good looking female and a female who noticed two good looking men. It's always seemed to me to be case of "we have a man and a woman together on an island... no actually we have two men and a woman on an island.... let's make them all attracted right away and make it more a need that one of them sleeps with her, because let's face it they're the opposite sex so that's OK".
It's always felt rushed and almost predatory to me, and a lot of people using one another just so they're not cold at night. And then when Juliet was thrown in the mix, it's just not right that any person would live with someone for three years, yet know when another female walks in the door, their time together is over. It's just unnatural, and the love story between these four people is totally over the top now. I don't even know who I want Kate to end up with, as I was surprised how much Jack needed her... but I don't know how much she needs him or Sawyer.
Like everything with LOST, it is bloody confusing.
And here's another thing, something that happened so long ago, we're never going to find out what happened. Who dropped the Dharma food from the helicopter that the survivors found? Whoever it was, why didn't it crash? Although we know flight 816 crashed because Desmond didn't push the button, things seem to be drawn to the island anyway. If it was the Dharma people, why would they have not come bak to the island? If it was the Others, why would they care about Desmond having food if they thought he was a Dharma worker? Even so, if Desmond was teriffied of going outside, why wasn't there more food lying around the place? Or was that something the other guy with Desmond used to do, collect the food? Or was the food dropped for the survivors? In which case by whom? And why was it dropped so far away from the beach?
*deep breath*
Anyway, more about the current series.
I feel mean for disliking Juliet all this time. Seriously, I feel like a low-down meanie. I was so sad at what happened to her, and how she reacted and how Sawyer reacted, and it was a horrible way to go, and to see her really injured down the shaft and begging for the bomb to explode... it was a really heartbreaking scene, and I didn't expect to be upset by it. I had read something that made me think she was perhaps going to die, but I didn't expect it to be such a cruel way. I'm not usually bothered by violence, and although I know it was critical to the story, I didn't like seeing a bloodied and broken women still alive... it was not nice to watch.
I have no idea what the whole thing with the second Locke is. I wasn't sure if Ben was lying when he told Sun the fact that Locke was alive again terrified him, but when Richard pretty much said he had never seen the dead walk, I knew both he and Ben were confused by it. My original thinking was maybe Jacob was the 2nd Locke and he was going out amongst the people and was testing Ben to see if he would kill him (Jacob), but as we saw Jacob and the 2nd Locke together, I think that theory goes out the window. Is the guy with Jacob who said he would kill him? Having such a person on the island, wouldn't Jacob have got rid of him in someway centuries ago? Another theory that goes out the window regarding Richard, is I thought maybe he never aged because he was also dead when he was brought to the island and the power of the island (and Jacob which is why he said he was ageless) kept him alive but as he was technically dead he wouldn't age. But as Richard had never known dead people to live again, this debunks the theory that Richard is dead. This also confuses the issue with Christian who like Locke, was quite clearly dead when he was brought to the island. So who is Christian? Is that why his body was never found so that those who see him, believe he is alive and kicking again? If the body was in the coffin people would believe they were imagining it instead. Was someone supposed to have moved Locke's body so people would think he was really alive again, and if so who? Richard is high up the status for the Others and even he was kept in the dark about Locke. So who else on the island knows the dead cannot walk, but moves the bodies of the dead so when they do "come back to life" there is no evidence to prove otherwise? Could it be Jacob? Is Jacob really dead? Is he that mortal that he can die? Or is he like Richard? Never ageing. Can they be injured and can they die? Should it be that easy to kill Jacob? If Jacob is that powerful and knowing, did he know they were coming to kill him? When Locke said he knew Jacob in a manner of speaking, was it a referance to seeing him off the island... or was it because the other guy Jacob knew, was now in Locke's body. Did Jacob kill the other guy, and he has been waiting all this time for an already dead body to appear and inhabit so he could grant an audience with Jacob? Is this why Locke had to die, the leader of the Others could see Jacob, and thus the Unkown Man Jacob once knew, could finally get to him and have him killed.
Why did Jacob visit the survivors? Originally we were led to believe everyone the Others took were "good people" which is why they took the kids and Eko (presumably because he was a bad person but he had learned the error of his ways and changed). I originally thought with the Young Kate flashback, that he had caught her stealing and told her not to do it again.... which she later did, so maybe she was on his "bad list". When we saw Young Sawyer and Jacob gave him the pen and the relative said that he was not to continue writing the letter, and Sawyer lied to him... I was expecting Jacob to come back and tell James not to lie anymore... which obviously he does do. All the other flasbacks further sent my idea up in smoke, so I honestly do not know why he visited them, especially as some of the visits were after they had been on the island (Hurley and Sayid) and the other before they had ever been on the plane. It was obvious that Jacob was the reason Hurley went on the plane, and it was because of Nadia that Sayid worked and helped Ben which would eventually (really, really eventually) lead him to be on the plane as well. And how come Ben said Widmore killed Nadia when it was actually Jacob? Did he know that Jacob could leave the island? I'm guessing he didn't if he had never seen him. Was Ben told by someone else it was Widmore's doing that Nadia died? Was Ben given false information to stop him asking questions as well?
If the bomb blows up and it works, are the survivors going to remember what happened? If no one is going to remember anything (Losties, Others etc)... isn't that the end of the show? If it doesn't work, won't the island be pretty much destroyed with a lot of (if not all) people dead, and everyone back were they started and even worse off than before? Or is it possible the bomb didn't go off, or not blow up as it should have done, and everything is back to how it was, with some people in '77 and some in '04. Or did Jacob's death and the bomb explosion pretty much coincide with one another, and each affected the other in some way?
Who are Llana and the people with her working for? How did they know a code or something only the Others know? Are they children of people who used to live and work on the island? How did they manage to be on that plane? Did they also figure out which plane would fly over the island at the right time? Why did Jacob visit her? Did he tell her all she needed to know? Is she just someone being paid to work for him and she knows nothing about the island? Was Jacob expecting her to bring Locke's body, why would she be carrying it around and want to find Jacob's cabin. Who is the person she spoke of when she said someone else had been using it? Was this the proof Jacob wanted that that the other guy was still around in someway?
EDIT: It is now highly possible that zombie Christian and Locke were inhabited by Jacob's enemy. The dialogue between them on the beach mentions that the enemy will find a loophole to kill him. When zombie Locke and Ben enter the cave, Jacob comments that he (zombie Locke) has found a loophole and zombie Locke says he has and it took him a long time to get here. Also, when Richard, Ben and Locke come across the Locke who is injured after being shot in the leg, the present Locke tells Richard that he must tell the past Locke that he has to die. And Christian also says something similar to Locke before he turns the wheel and moves the island. All things that Jacob's enemy needs to get Locke to die and be brought back to the island.
I'm actually pretty miffed that this theory seems canon now, as I thought I'd hit on something amazing, ah well.
Also in one of the videos that the Dharma people make with the Dr guy, he has a prosthetic hand which would indicate that the injury he sustained when Miles saved him, meant that on that day when the bomb blew up, he survived to continue working for the DI. Which means possibly, everyone else survived as well.
******END OF SPOILERS END OF SPOILERS END OF SPOILERS******
*gasp* *gasp* *gasp*
I'm sure I have more questions... somewhere.
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Post subject: Posted: September 22nd, 2009, 5:20 pm |
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Johnny's Fan wrote: Yay!
Yes, I saw it last night... ARGH! Evil, evil ending. I wasn't sure if you had seen it yet Will so I didn't menton anything. But now I know.....
****SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS*****
First of all, I have to have my little rant. My favourite romances in LOST are Desmond/Penny and Sun/Jin. Why? Because Desmond and Penny have had problems but their love has endured and Sun and Jin have also had problems, although completely different ones and their love has grown and developed.
My main problem with the Kate/Jack/Sawyer/Juliet thing (mainly the Kate/Jack/Sawyer triangle) as it was clear from day one of the island, it was like two men who noticed a good looking female and a female who noticed two good looking men. It's always seemed to me to be case of "we have a man and a woman together on an island... no actually we have two men and a woman on an island.... let's make them all attracted right away and make it more a need that one of them sleeps with her, because let's face it they're the opposite sex so that's OK".
It's always felt rushed and almost predatory to me, and a lot of people using one another just so they're not cold at night. And then when Juliet was thrown in the mix, it's just not right that any person would live with someone for three years, yet know when another female walks in the door, their time together is over. It's just unnatural, and the love story between these four people is totally over the top now. I don't even know who I want Kate to end up with, as I was surprised how much Jack needed her... but I don't know how much she needs him or Sawyer.
Like everything with LOST, it is bloody confusing.
And here's another thing, something that happened so long ago, we're never going to find out what happened. Who dropped the Dharma food from the helicopter that the survivors found? Whoever it was, why didn't it crash? Although we know flight 816 crashed because Desmond didn't push the button, things seem to be drawn to the island anyway. If it was the Dharma people, why would they have not come bak to the island? If it was the Others, why would they care about Desmond having food if they thought he was a Dharma worker? Even so, if Desmond was teriffied of going outside, why wasn't there more food lying around the place? Or was that something the other guy with Desmond used to do, collect the food? Or was the food dropped for the survivors? In which case by whom? And why was it dropped so far away from the beach?
*deep breath*
Anyway, more about the current series.
I feel mean for disliking Juliet all this time. Seriously, I feel like a low-down meanie. I was so sad at what happened to her, and how she reacted and how Sawyer reacted, and it was a horrible way to go, and to see her really injured down the shaft and begging for the bomb to explode... it was a really heartbreaking scene, and I didn't expect to be upset by it. I had read something that made me think she was perhaps going to die, but I didn't expect it to be such a cruel way. I'm not usually bothered by violence, and although I know it was critical to the story, I didn't like seeing a bloodied and broken women still alive... it was not nice to watch.
I have no idea what the whole thing with the second Locke is. I wasn't sure if Ben was lying when he told Sun the fact that Locke was alive again terrified him, but when Richard pretty much said he had never seen the dead walk, I knew both he and Ben were confused by it. My original thinking was maybe Jacob was the 2nd Locke and he was going out amongst the people and was testing Ben to see if he would kill him (Jacob), but as we saw Jacob and the 2nd Locke together, I think that theory goes out the window. Is the guy with Jacob who said he would kill him? Having such a person on the island, wouldn't Jacob have got rid of him in someway centuries ago? Another theory that goes out the window regarding Richard, is I thought maybe he never aged because he was also dead when he was brought to the island and the power of the island (and Jacob which is why he said he was ageless) kept him alive but as he was technically dead he wouldn't age. But as Richard had never known dead people to live again, this debunks the theory that Richard is dead. This also confuses the issue with Christian who like Locke, was quite clearly dead when he was brought to the island. So who is Christian? Is that why his body was never found so that those who see him, believe he is alive and kicking again? If the body was in the coffin people would believe they were imagining it instead. Was someone supposed to have moved Locke's body so people would think he was really alive again, and if so who? Richard is high up the status for the Others and even he was kept in the dark about Locke. So who else on the island knows the dead cannot walk, but moves the bodies of the dead so when they do "come back to life" there is no evidence to prove otherwise? Could it be Jacob? Is Jacob really dead? Is he that mortal that he can die? Or is he like Richard? Never ageing. Can they be injured and can they die? Should it be that easy to kill Jacob? If Jacob is that powerful and knowing, did he know they were coming to kill him? When Locke said he knew Jacob in a manner of speaking, was it a referance to seeing him off the island... or was it because the other guy Jacob knew, was now in Locke's body. Did Jacob kill the other guy, and he has been waiting all this time for an already dead body to appear and inhabit so he could grant an audience with Jacob? Is this why Locke had to die, the leader of the Others could see Jacob, and thus the Unkown Man Jacob once knew, could finally get to him and have him killed.
Why did Jacob visit the survivors? Originally we were led to believe everyone the Others took were "good people" which is why they took the kids and Eko (presumably because he was a bad person but he had learned the error of his ways and changed). I originally thought with the Young Kate flashback, that he had caught her stealing and told her not to do it again.... which she later did, so maybe she was on his "bad list". When we saw Young Sawyer and Jacob gave him the pen and the relative said that he was not to continue writing the letter, and Sawyer lied to him... I was expecting Jacob to come back and tell James not to lie anymore... which obviously he does do. All the other flasbacks further sent my idea up in smoke, so I honestly do not know why he visited them, especially as some of the visits were after they had been on the island (Hurley and Sayid) and the other before they had ever been on the plane. It was obvious that Jacob was the reason Hurley went on the plane, and it was because of Nadia that Sayid worked and helped Ben which would eventually (really, really eventually) lead him to be on the plane as well. And how come Ben said Widmore killed Nadia when it was actually Jacob? Did he know that Jacob could leave the island? I'm guessing he didn't if he had never seen him. Was Ben told by someone else it was Widmore's doing that Nadia died? Was Ben given false information to stop him asking questions as well?
If the bomb blows up and it works, are the survivors going to remember what happened? If no one is going to remember anything (Losties, Others etc)... isn't that the end of the show? If it doesn't work, won't the island be pretty much destroyed with a lot of (if not all) people dead, and everyone back were they started and even worse off than before? Or is it possible the bomb didn't go off, or not blow up as it should have done, and everything is back to how it was, with some people in '77 and some in '04. Or did Jacob's death and the bomb explosion pretty much coincide with one another, and each affected the other in some way?
Who are Llana and the people with her working for? How did they know a code or something only the Others know? Are they children of people who used to live and work on the island? How did they manage to be on that plane? Did they also figure out which plane would fly over the island at the right time? Why did Jacob visit her? Did he tell her all she needed to know? Is she just someone being paid to work for him and she knows nothing about the island? Was Jacob expecting her to bring Locke's body, why would she be carrying it around and want to find Jacob's cabin. Who is the person she spoke of when she said someone else had been using it? Was this the proof Jacob wanted that that the other guy was still around in someway?
EDIT: It is now highly possible that zombie Christian and Locke were inhabited by Jacob's enemy. The dialogue between them on the beach mentions that the enemy will find a loophole to kill him. When zombie Locke and Ben enter the cave, Jacob comments that he (zombie Locke) has found a loophole and zombie Locke says he has and it took him a long time to get here. Also, when Richard, Ben and Locke come across the Locke who is injured after being shot in the leg, the present Locke tells Richard that he must tell the past Locke that he has to die. And Christian also says something similar to Locke before he turns the wheel and moves the island. All things that Jacob's enemy needs to get Locke to die and be brought back to the island.
I'm actually pretty miffed that this theory seems canon now, as I thought I'd hit on something amazing, ah well.
Also in one of the videos that the Dharma people make with the Dr guy, he has a prosthetic hand which would indicate that the injury he sustained when Miles saved him, meant that on that day when the bomb blew up, he survived to continue working for the DI. Which means possibly, everyone else survived as well.
******END OF SPOILERS END OF SPOILERS END OF SPOILERS******
*gasp* *gasp* *gasp*
I'm sure I have more questions... somewhere.
Yes I've seen the final a while back but since the place here was kinda dead.. I had no one to discuss.
But now teh JF hath returned with a new refreshed obsession! (Where did you leave Ben? :-O )
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I must agree with you that Desmond and Penny are just cute. I love how Penny learns to live with Desmonds freaky-island-addicted-side and how Desmond is trying to forget everything. Talking about enduring love I also admire Jin and Sun's relationship, it sets the Kate-Jack-Sawyer-relationships (yes, I am purposely leaving Juliet out) in a complete new light.
I do not agree with your opinion on those relationships though. I think Jack and Sawyer both had some real character development which also concerned Kate. Sawyer might have been into Kate just to sleep with her in the first place but it turned into real love eventually. As it became clear that Kate wasn't quite in for him, his love almost consumed him. As for Jack, I think he really loved Kate to begin with. But Kate being Kate and wanting to be free and affraid of commitment left Jack in doubt and eventually broke his heart by sleeping with Sawyer.
You see, I think it's a little more complicated.. but what makes their relationships so different from those of Sun/Jin and Desmond/Penny is that eventually they will not fight to let their love endure.
The Dharma helicopter is an interesting subject. I don't think the Dharma people would have made it crash as they were obviously already dead by that time and I assume that no one in the outside world can find the island except for Mrs Eloise. So perhaps she did it.. in order to keep the Chosen Ones alive.. I think it crashed in the jungle because everything in a small radius from the island just crashes there. About Desmond: I do not think that he knew anything about the Others. He probably had a very large stash with Dharma food and did not have to bother about that.
I never actually hated Juliet. From the start in season 3 I've always thought there's more to her character than she showed. I truely believe that she just cooperated with the Others in order to get back home with her sister. Why? Because I want to believe in people's goodness. And Juliet never was an evil person. Talking about good and evil, I actually never thought Richard was evil eventhough he was an Other. Ben on the otherside I considered as über-evil although I changed my mind somewhat in season 4.
But back to Juliet. I thought that final scene was heartbreaking. The fact that she knew she was going to die was horrible. And she just let go to save Sawyer. She sacrificed herself so he could live and perhaps end up with Kate. Just like she sacrificed herself when she let Jack go as she knew he loved Kate. Is it just me or does Juliet always get worst off?
But the fact that she detonated the bomb tells me that she still has a significant role to fullfil. I hope.
I think Ben and Richard were confused by the 'Reincarnated Locke' because this is indeed Jacob's adversary who created a loophole. Since neither Richard or Ben knew anything about the whole time travel thing confirms their ignorance of this event. Personally my guess is that Cristian is Jacob's old adversary who found a loophole when Oceanic 815 crashed. He never showed up again at the beach for obvious reasons. Now my second guess is that the second Locke might be Claire. She's been with Christian in the cabin when the Losties left, saying she still business on the island. She has probably been brainwashed by Christian/ Jacob's adversary.
Why Jacob didn't kill his opponent? Probably because he couldn't. Those huge Egyptian statues shows that the first scene was set a long long time ago. Perhaps Jacob and the other guy are some kind of divine beings who are unable to kill one another (perhaps that's why he needed Clare?) and do not age. Because I don't believe Jacob is dead. The first time after all this time we lay eyes on him he gets killed? No way. Jacob is too clever for that.
I have no clue why the Losties are visited by Jacob but the only thing I figure is that it's probably becaue they are important. The Oceanic Six to restore the island.. or to prevent something else from happening there. And I also think that Ben was given false information that Nadia was killed by Widmore. After all he has never spoken to Jacob before. He just used Sayid for his own agenda.
I'm pretty sure that there won't be time travel anymore in season 6. Or that's what the writers claimed. Probably something huge will happen.. perhaps even to undo past events. (Jacob's death, Ana Lucia's death etc? Didn't they say that important characters were to come back? )
And I have no idea who those Llana people are. But I think they are closely connected to Jacob. Obviously they knew Jacob's adversary was trying to find a loophole and they knew about the loophole themselves or else they would not have been on the plane. They knew a password which only Richard knows, who on his turn knew the password from Jacob. I think they are Jacob's followers.. There is going to be a war I suspect. It must have something to do with the conflict between Jacob and his adversary. Didn't anyone mention a coming war in season 5? Was it Widmore? In any case, the Losties are going to play an important part in this.
And didn't that Dharma guy (Miles' father) mention an "incident" in one of his video's? Perhaps it had something to do with the explosion?
I still don't understand why Libby was in the same mental institution as Hurley, especially because she was a doctor herself.
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O children, lift up your voice, lift up your voice,
Children, rejoice, rejoice..
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To be honest, if Ben had killed Desmond or Penny I would have felt very, very weird. Because I feel sorry for Ben and I can understand he wants Revenge... but it's Desmond and Penny. Nobody splits them up. And even if Desmond hadn't beat the crap out of him, I think once he saw the kid he wasn't going to shoot her.
What I meant was, originally it was two guys who both realised they were stuck on the island with a cute girl. It felt very animal to me, with nothing to do with love, but more like lust and so for a long, long time the triangle was never serious for me, because of how it began. And I really like Kate, I always have. But as Sawyer and Jack have developed feelings for her, with both of them being heartbroken... I just.. don't know about her. I agree, I think her problem is commitment and everything... but I've never seen true love shown by her for either of them. Even when she was with Jack after leaving the island it was kinda like "because he was there", and if Sawyer had left and Jack had stayed it would have been the same thing.
Apparently, the writers did and interview and the food drops were mentioned and they said among other things, that basically how do we even know the food was dropped....?
I never thought Juliet was evil. I just really, really don't like her. I think her mouth annoys me actually, so maybe it's the actress, I'm not sure. She confuses me because I can't put my finger on why I dislike her so much. GASP! Ben? Evil? Well... I can understand that I suppose. I was one of the few people to recognise his awesomeness. And Richard is just tall, dark and mysterious. Not to mention handsome. I loved seeing more of him in the last series.
I agree about the adversary being Locke and even possibly Christian as they have both provided information that would ultimately allow zombie Locke to confront Jacob. Not sure about Claire though. I think she is still alive.
I don't think Jacob is dead either. It's waaay to easy a way for him to die, although I do wonder why zombie Locke put the body on the fire. Why not leave it alone?
I am concerned about season 6... only because I want Frank and Hurley to survive and not be made kings of the island or anything. I want them back home safe and sound. My brother reckons if the flashforward and flashbacks are not going to be the big thing for the next season, could it be something like a parallel world? I hope it's not *too* weird and outlandish... which might be a bit late.
I think Widmore did mention a war yes. Which is either going to be really exciting or really confusing.
Yes, I think that could be the incident as we know he must have survived the explosion as in one of the videos he has a false hand. And the nasty guy with the glasses who was there when the bomb exploded, he has the same name of the guy who pushed the hatch button before Desmond. Because we were told he killed himself and his blood was still on the walls.
It only just occured to me, that is Widmore was right about Daniel being his son, then Daniel and Penny are related.
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