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PostPosted: January 1st, 2010, 4:33 pm 
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Never mind, we'll manage just as well with A-U, I bet ;-)

Oh, and take your time with the icon! :)

Oh dear, I'm eagerly waiting for the final episode of DOOM to be uploaded on Youtube... I'm not so sure if it makes more sense to stay up till midnight and hope for someone to upload it this evening, or to go to bed early so tomorrow is here the sooner...? :P

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I knew I had to post my icon, but I'm sort of paralizes since I've seen The End of Time...

THE END OF TIME SPOILERS:
Sooooooooooo, let's see...
Tears, tears and tears. Oh, and more tears. You know what killed me the most? The fact that the Doctor went visiting all the people he met, at the end of the episode. Martha, Mickey (Martha and Mickey?!?!?!), Donna, Jack (Oh my, I cried so much when I saw Jack again), Sarah Jane, Joan (More or less) and ROSE. That was amazing, but really, TOO SAD.
I felt so bad about 10, dying alone in his TARDIS. He would've deserved something more. He should've been with all his companions, in that moment, not so sad and all alone. When he said "I don't wanna go (or leave, I don't remember, I was crying too much)", well, that was David talking.
Apart from that...he and Wilf were amazing, really. And the sound of the drums in the Master's head? I felt so bad for him, really bad. Poor Master :(
There's too much to say, I'll just wait your impressions for now, otherwise this will become even more confused.
Oh, and I didn't like much the little part that Matt Smith did. Maybe because I was feeling too bad to appreciate it, but...meh.
Oh, I found a Season 5 trailer :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9_uEG1UmRI
(already kissing the new companion?!?)

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Yeah, you know the deal. SPOILERS.







Okay, so. I know what you mean by paralysed. Before I watched it, I knew I would be very sad, of course, but usually, sadness turns into something creative with me. I usually start writing poetry or making graphics to cope with it. This time... nothing. I cried like a babe during the final 20 minutes or so, and now I can't even cry anymore. I wish I could, it would help. I'm just sitting here, staring at the wall. I keep telling myself that it's just television, but it doesn't help. Everything feels so numb inside.

I have to agree about the episode. I absolutely loved it. The plot was really brilliant, I loved the Master, I loved how they solved all the Timelord riddles, yet managed to keep one mystery (Who was that woman? My guess is that she's the Doctor's mother, but that doesn't explain much). And I loved that after all, it was Wilf, poor innocent STUPID Wilf, who knocked four times. Who killed the Doctor. This tragic ending is just fitting for 10, whose life was a whole series of tragedies, and yet so wonderful. When the Timelords were gone and the Doctor just couldn't believe he was still alive, I kind of started hoping against all hope that he would live, after all. And then Wilf. :explode: I don't blame him, though. He would have stayed in there to save the Doctor's life, I am sure.
Well, and I absolutely adored the part that I call "The Doctor's final conflict", when he starts losing it, being angry with Wilf and the world and himself for this irony of fate. And then the way he pulls himself together and remembers that he is so much more than that. He did what was right in the end, but he did it with a struggle, and that adds so much to his character, so much grandeur, so much heroism. (I'm trying very hard not the use the word "Shakespearean" here...)
And then, from the moment he went into that glass cage, I just cried my eyes out. It hurt so much so see him curl up in pain in there, it hurt almost physically. Right, and the final part, when he says goodbye to all his friends, made me forgive RTD for all his blunders, even for the Waters of Mars. These last scenes have a very poignant sadness and simple beauty, and I can think of no better way he could have ended it. Gosh, so the Mickey/Martha rumours were true! I just couldn't believe it! :bounce: And OMG, his last words to Rose!! I was kind of hoping he would finally say "I love you", but I knew this was never going to be. But it was still very beautiful.
"I don't wanna go" broke my heart. :closedeyes: I heard David in there as well.
And then, the regeneration was sheer horror. One moment, there was 10's beautiful sad face, and the next moment, this Matt Smith was trying to act like David Tennant and failing utterly at it. I'm trying not to comment on his looks, but I'm sure you know what I feel about this matter.
I was like, laughing hysterically, crying "YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!"

After the Series 5 trailer, I'm not so sure anymore I'm gonna be watching it. Yeah, yeah, the kiss... we kind of saw it coming, didn't we? And it sucks. The whole trailer just failed to get me excited about Season 5. I just felt like this is a completely different show that means nothing to me. Which it is, now. :annoyed2:


Sorry to all Matt Smith fans who might be reading this, blablabla and so on, but this is my opinion. I'm utterly disappointed. It's even worse than I thought it would be.



So, Rev, let's cherish the memories of our beloved 10.
The universe will sing you to your sleep.
I miss him already.

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SPOILERS!

Ok, let's see. First, I have to agree, I thought that the woman was the Doctor's mother as well. Especially when he's holding the gun and then he sees her and they look each other in the eyes for a long moment.
I also agree about Wilf. He's not to blame, poor man. He did his best, how could he know about those nuclear things, or whatever they were? Yes, he would've saved the Doctor's life, I'm sure about this as well.
Oh yes, the part when of the "Doctor's final conflict" (what an appropriate name) was perfect. I agree with you, it added so much to the character, completing him in such a perfect way. Now, he is completely amazing.
Martha/Mickey, I can't believe it! Wasn't s he married to another guy? Well, they look cute together, btw :)
Yes, I hoped so much that he would've said "I love you" to Rose. Or, ever better, kiss her. I knew it was impossible, but my heart still pretends a real kiss betwenn 10 and Rose (which now is absolutely impossible *cries her heart out*). And Jack/Alonso?! LOL
I agree about the Matt Smith part. Maybe because I was so sad for David, I don't know, but I didn't like him at all. It seemed to me that he was trying (with no success) to act like David, just, you know, copying.

I dunno if I will watch Season 5, maybe I will, maybe I won't, probably I won't, at least for now. But I agree with you, looks like a completely different show to me, now.

I will miss him forever, because he was MY Doctor. He IS my Doctor.

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Spoilers.


I'm glad you feel the same way. Your icon is the first thing since yesterday that managed to make me smile :)

Funny you thought it was his mother, too! Very mysterious, that is. :bounce:

Haha, I agree about Martha/Mickey. I think she was just engaged to this other guy, if I remember correctly. Seems like RTD has read too many fanfics and copied some of their ideas :P And Jack/Alonso, lol... I liked that they had so many aliens from previous episodes in that bar, too!

Well, it would have been practically impossible for him to kiss her, as she would have remembered his face afterwards, and her shock after his regeneration from 9 to 10 wouldn't work out anymore, and... you know, time paradoxes. But that doesn't keep us from dreaming, does it. *sigh*

You know, I'm so disappointed with that Matt Smith guy that I don't even want to see his face anymore. I wanted to give him a chance, I really did, but from the moment I saw his acting, it was all over. :'( So, I've decided to pretend that Doctor Who stopped right there, with Ten's death. Season 5 is dead for me, I'm going to deny 11's very existence. :disgust: Is that very wicked of me?



So, as for our lyrics battle... I'm not quite sure about the rules. I'll just post the lyrics of one song I chose, and we can both use different lines, as long as they're from the song, right?
I'll just start off with my song, and you tell me if I got the rules wrong, okay?

So, in honour of 10's passing... :'(

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Avril Lavigne: When You're Gone

I always needed time on my own
I never thought I'd need you there when I cry
And the days feel like years when I’m alone
And the bed where you lie is made up on your side
When you walk away
I count the steps that you take.
Do you see how much I need you right now?

When you're gone
The pieces of my heart are missing you
When you're gone
The face I came to know is missing too
When you're gone
The words I need to hear to always get me through the day
And make it okay
I miss you

I've never felt this way before
Everything that I do
Reminds me of you
And the clothes you left
They lie on the floor
And they smell just like you
I love the things that you do

When you walk away
I count the steps that you take
Do you see how much I need you right now?

When you're gone
The pieces of my heart are missing you
When you're gone
The face I came to know is missing too
When you're gone
The words I need to hear to always get me through the day
And make it OK
I miss you

We were made for each other
Out here forever
I know we were

All I ever wanted was for you to know
Everything I do I give my heart and soul
I can hardly breathe I need to feel you here with me

When you're gone
The pieces of my heart are missing you
When you're gone
The face I came to know is missing too
When you're gone
The words I need to hear will always get me through the day
And make it OK
I miss you

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I am glad that my icon made you smile :)
The Doctor wouldn't want you to be sad, FF! He would say "I am gone, that's true, but you know what you can do? Have a good life, do it for me, make me so proud, like you want me to be" (quote "Song for Ten").
That's what I think when I feel too sad about it. That the Doctor wouldn't want me to be sad, he would like to see me smile because of all the amazing moments :)
(Still, I'm really sad anyway :P)

Spoilers (quoting River Song in "The Forest of the Dead" :P)
Lol well RTD should've read more 10/Rose fanfics, then, instead of Mickey/Martha ones! I loved the aliens in the "pub" as well! The drunk Adipose was so cute!

Yes, I know the Doctor couldn't say anything important to Rose, or even kiss her, because of time paradoxes and all. But, when he said "I'm going to get my reward", for a moment I crossed my fingers. Before I saw The End of Time part 2, I was thinking "Wait, if the Time-Lords are coming back, it means that it's possible to travel into parallel universes! That means...Rose!" But then, it wasn't like that.
Also, when at the end you see the church, for Donna's wedding, for a few seconds I thought that it would've been Rose and the human Doctor's wedding. It would've been nice to see those two again.

I have to say that I'm very jelous of all the people that are happy for Matt Smith. I read everywhere on Youtube comments like "Yay, Matt Smith is gonna be a great Doctor" and "I can't wait for season 5" etc., and I really envy them. I wish I was excited about season 5 as well. :confused:
No, that's not too wicked. 11 who, btw? :P

Yep, the rules are right :)
[s]I'm gonna work at my entry soon, promise ;)[/s]

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Gosh, Rev, that must be one of the most beautiful things you've ever done! :bounce: I've always had a weakness for that song, but what you did with it is even more beautiful than the song itself. :swoon: Oh, and Doomsday-heartbreak is just appropriate for now. I feel like Rose being left behind on Bad Wolf Bay, and he is gone... gone forever! :'( And I'm sure you feel the same way.

I really loved what you said about the Doctor not wanting us to be sad. :hug: I've been listening to Song for Ten, too, and it brings back such wonderful memories. Still, Rose couldn't accept his words then, and neither can I. :P

Yes, yes, YES, I thought the same thing about Donna's wedding! Especially as there had been rumours that we would see Rose's wedding in the final episode, which, apparently, were nonsense. Still, it would have been great to see that, even though I'm not so sure I could have survived the additional heartbreak. :confused:

As for these people on YT... I'm rather upset that they seem to be able to forget 10 so quickly. Perhaps I'm being unfair or biased, but I'm just not that kind of person to say "Well, he was great, and he's gone, bring on the next one!" I could never forget so quickly a character that meant (and still means!) so much to me. In fact, I could never EVER forget him. So, I don't even want to be excited about Season 5. It would feel like I betrayed Ten. :'(


You know what just occurred to me? Timelord Victorious in WoM was totally superfluous! It wasn't even remotely important in EoT, it wasn't even mentioned! Now what did they do that for? RTD going crazy again?!



Oh, and something I've been wanting to ask you for a long time: Do you happen to know a good site where you can watch all Doctor Who Confidential episodes? There are a few of them on YT, but I wanna watch ALL of them! :P


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Aww, thanks FF! And oh yes, I feel the same way. And I wanted to make a blend that represented 10, with all his AMAZING emotions :)
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I know, I wish we could've seen Rose's wedding! I would've cried even more, but at least it would've been sort of a happy ending for her.
Yes, I know how you feel. It's like when your dog dies (I'm not comparing Ten to a dog, of course :P) and your parents say that they'll get you another one. All you can think of is "It's never going to be the same". Weird comparison, I know :P

AAAAAAAAAAAAAND, I know, and RTD is stupid. Well, not really, but gosh, if he knew how BAD I felt for WoM!!! And for something completely superfluous! It was useless!

Annnyway, as the Doctor says :P
I think that you can find most of the Confidentials here: http://david-tennantcomvideoarchive.mag ... doctor+who

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Not at all, when I read your dog- comparison, I was like "Goodness, yeah, that's exactly how I feel!" The only difference is that in time, you can learn to love the new dog, too - but I'm quite sure I can never learn to love 11! :disgust:

Thanks for the link! Once again, I underestimated the awesomeness that is david-tennant.com :D


Oh, and have you seen that the complete version of David's farewell speech is now up on YT?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2-ydkmaAvU
That made me cry all over again. And it's soo cute!! :swoon: (Did I ever mention that I have a weakness for men who try to fight back their tears? Especially if they look like the Doctor :P )


Aaanyway, here is my blend. Wow, this took a really long time, but I like it. :)
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I'm curious which song you're going to choose! :bounce:

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You're very welcome! Yeah, david-tennant.com is really amazing, it has everything! :D

Once again, let me say that I love your poems about the 10th Doctor's departure :)

And yes, I saw it last night. Oh my, it was heartbreaking again. And don't get me started about men who try to fight back tears, because that's my weakness as well! I hate men who absolutely have to seem strong and emotionless. Emotions are what make us human, and a man who cries is a real man indeed. :closedeyes:

Wow, your blend it's amazing! Really, really cool. The pictures are perfect, and they are blended perfectly as well!

Here is my lyrics choice. A friend of mine sent me this song, and I though that the lyrics could fit with the Doctor's departure, or with 10/Rose. Anyway, I like them:

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Muse- Guiding Light

Pure Hearts stumble
In my hands they crumble
fragile and stripped to the core
I can't hurt you anymore
Loved by numbers
You' re loosing life's wonder
And touch like strangers; detached,
I can feel you anymore

The sunshine trapped in our hearts
It could rise again, but I'm lost
And crushed
cold and confused with no guiding light left inside

You were my guiding light

When comfort and warmth can't be found I still reach for you
But I'm lost, crushed
cold and confused with no guiding light left inside
You're my guiding light.
You're my guiding light.
When there's no guiding light left inside.
There's no guiding light in our lives.


You can hear the song here, if you want: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGLtufyEMFU
And there is also a 10/Rose video with it, on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRPWaRAf_so

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One of the two dissident Time Lords, described as "The Woman" in the credits, visits Wilf on several occasions, appearing and disappearing in unexplained ways. When she lowers her arms to stare at the Tenth Doctor he appears to recognise her, but when later asked by Wilf about her identity, he evades the question. Though the woman is never identified in the story, Julie Gardner refers to her as "The Doctor's mother",[citation needed] and British newspapers The Daily Telegraph and The Daily Mail identified the character as such as early as April 2009.


Wow, this makes it even sadder...

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Yay, I was right! For once in the history of my Doctor Who fandom, I managed to guess correctly! :P I wonder what the whole story behind that is. So, she managed to get to earth before the rest of the Timelords, trying to save his life? It's a really great plot, but so sad at the same time.

Thank you, I'm so glad you liked it. And the poems as well. I could never be happy with anything Who-related if you don't like it, too :)

I'm glad you agree about the crying thing. Which makes a crying Doctor = maximum cuteness. :blush:

10, PLEASE COME BACK!!! I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT YOU!! :'(


I like that song, too! I remember watching that 10/Rose fanvid on YT. :) Is it your turn now to make the first blend, or is it mine, because you chose the song this time?

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First, it's the same. If you manage to finish the blend first, you post it :P

Then, yes, yay, we guessed right! But it's too sad, that the Doctor had to "sacrifice" his mother to send the Timelords back.
Aww you're so sweet. Everything DW related that you do is amazing ;)

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Aww, that's beautiful! Poor 10... :'( Can I trust my eyes? You actually put a reference to Waters of Mars in there, didn't you? I like that. Oh yes. :)


Ahahaha, have you ever seen THIS? O.O
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTMiC-nOdZw


Yes, I know, it's so sad! But I got the feeling that his mother wanted him to do it. Because she knew that the Timelords had to be sent back, whatever the cost.


I'll only get around to finish my blend on Thurday or Friday. :confused: I have a lot of rehersals with my drama group these days, but they will be over soon. Thankfully. (Don't get me wrong, I love acting, but this year I have to play the girlfriend of a guy whom I r e a l l y d o n 't l i k e . He's actually proposing to me on stage, and I hate having to pretend to be in love with him :P I tried really hard to imagine that he's David Tennant instead, but it didn't work :D )
Lol, sorry for the rant. ;-)

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Oh yes, that's Waters of Mars, I was referring exactly to that, because I never saw the Doctor so lost as in Waters of Mars.

Ahah LOL how weird is that? :P

Yes, probably. Still, it's so sad.

How cool is that, you act? That's amazing! A little David Tennant you're gonna be, that's it! I could never do that. I play the guitar, you know (and I'm thinking of starting violin maybe, but anyway...), and I hate to play in front of a lot of people. I played in a few concerts, and I was always terrified. And when I'm terrified, I don't even play well. So, I could never act :P But it's so cool that you do!
Don't worry btw, soon I will be pretty busy as well. I have exams in February, and I would like to pass them all at the first session, because that would mean a whole month of vacation after that. But I have to study really a lot, if I want to pass them.
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Yes, I think this song fits his condition in WoM perfectly! :bounce:


You know, I thought that woman was really very impudent, but at the same time, it's also funny. :D Poor David, I bet he wasn't expecting THAT when he asked her to help her :P


Haha, well, it probably sounds greater than it actually is. We only have a performance once a year, and it's never in a particularly big hall or anything. And you know, if I look at what David Tennant is doing and compare it with myself, I don't even dare to call what I'm doing "acting". :P I haven't got any special talent for it, I'm just doing it for fun, really.
I know what you're talking about! I used to play the piano in some concerts several years ago, and I was absolutely terrified. I think it makes a huge difference whether you're alone on stage or with a lot of other people. I'm still nervous before drama performances, but it's never that bad as it used to be with the piano. :P
Oh, and do start playing the violin! I looove violins! :bounce:

Yes, university. Says it all. :disgust: I should have written a term paper during the Christmas break, but the only things I did write were Doctor Who poems. :) I have 5 exams in February, too. Oh well, never mind. Nothing can be so bad as watching my Doctor die. :(

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Ahah I agree. I'd be paralyzed if I ever met David. Or maybe I would be like this:
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Well, sounds great anyway! The last time I acted I was 10 years old and I was an angel in the Christmas performance. A chubby angel :P
I know, I can't understand how people can walk on a stage and be perfectly calm when they have to play. I keep thinking "What if I forget my part? What if I do something wrong? What if I fall out the stage?" And things like that :P
I do love violins as well, I definitely have to start. As soon as I have some money, I will try to buy one. Right now, I want to buy a graphic pen + tablet, because I would love to learn Digital Painting :)

I know, university will kill us all :duh:
What exams do you have? I'm really curious, because, you know, when I had to choose what to study in university, my biggest doubt was between literature and physics. Because I love literature with all myself :)
So I'm curious about all your amazing exams :D
And yes, I agree. After watching The End of Time ,we can do everything *invincible* :P

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