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I think that when you see Jo/Laurie together it makes sense, but there are so many changes to Laurie (and the attitude he had when she just wanted to be friends) that by the time Freiderich arrives, they're just right for each other. That's the way I feel anyway. When I watch one of the films for the first half I will be the most rabid Jo/Laurie shipper and then I will change. :P

Was it the 1950's version? With June Allyson and Peter Lawford (The Rat Pack member)?

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June Allyson. That sounds about right.
It was the version where Amy didn't make me want to tear her head off. ;D

I suppose you're right, Jf. Jo/Laurie worked w hen they were kids, they had the same dynamic. But when it was time for them to grow up, they became two different people.

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If it was kinda twee and in colour that could only come from the 50's then that's what it would be. Yes, I think they did Amy some sort of justice. She is not as big a brat in the books, but whats-her-face from Spiderman was just horrible in the new version.

I think that Jo and Laurie could have had a really good friendship still, but I don't know. There's something weird about being good friends with someone who had serious hots for you, said they were over it, and married your sister instead....

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Yeah, I didn't mind Amy in the books at all, especially since she helped Laurie see how much of a JERKFACE he's been.

although I can't solely put the blame on Kirsten Dunst for 1994's bratty Amy, because the actress who portrayed older Amy also had that same sense of brattishness to her. The sense that she valued rich rather than love.

And yes, you do have a mighty good point about Laurie's confession. It's true. and Jo wanted them to be remain very good friends but... that would've just been awkward. And Jo runs off to New York because she feels suffocated, and then finds Bhaer, with whom she goes all wide-eyed for.

It's adorable, really.

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I just saw Little Women (the Kirsten Dunst version :P) for the first time. I haven't read the book by the way.
I had great expectations to the movie after having skimmed the thread and because this is the book that makes Joey cry in Friends (Yes, Friends-reference!)

I found it very cheap and unsympathetic that Laurie would go for a younger sister when he couldn't get Jo. How serious is that.. and how could Amy go him knowing that she was but a substitute for her sister...

Mr. Byrne, despite his beauty and swoon-quality, is old. In the movie he looked criminally older than Jo.. It just doesn't fit in my world (much the same way I'm frowning upon Alan Rickman marrying Kate Winslet (we all know he belongs with Emma Thompson in Love Actually!!)

Oh and question! What happened to their dad after he came back from the hospital? It was like "Oh dad you're home, let's gather around your chair!" and then we never saw him again afterwards... did he just die without telling anyone?

Beth was my favorite. Her story was quiet but Claire Danes portrayed her with so much compassion and tenderness.. fragile like porcelain but with the kindest heart. Her death scene was so beautiful.

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Eä wrote:
Beth was my favorite. Her story was quiet but Claire Danes portrayed her with so much compassion and tenderness.. fragile like porcelain but with the kindest heart. Her death scene was so beautiful.


Wow, I'm so glad to find another Beth fan! I don't know, it just seems like a lot of people write her off as boring, dull, or wishy-washy.

And I agree-her death scene was so beautifully played out. My sister and I still cry over that scene. <3

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@ Ea - Well I think that you have to understand that by the time Amy and Laurie got together, he was completely different to how he was when he wanted to be with Jo. He had grown and changed, as had Amy. Although I think it should be awkward that your former admirer has now married your sister, when Laurie and Amy met again after all that time, Laurie wasn't thinking, "I'll marry her instead because she's related to Jo". He loved her for herself and who she had grown to be - let's face it, Amy was no Jo. And I think when Jo found out they were married, the only feeling that shouldn't have been there from any of them, was Jo possibly regretting not marrying Laurie, not Laurie thinking "I had to take second best".

Aha, age differences. I think we have mentioned this in the Jane Austen threads. It was generally considered a good thing for a young woman to marry someone older than herself - especially if he was established in some way and could support her. While I agree that Gabriel Bryne was older than Frederich should have been (I think the age difference should have been about 16-18 when it was more like 26 lol), I am Ok with that, as they were so good together. :yes:

No, the dad was definitely still around. Can't remember if he was wounded and couldn't work, or he did go back to work, but the only one who died was Beth.

Beth is a nice character. I think anyone who doesn't like Beth needs to check and see if they ever traded their soul with th devil.

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Regarding Amy/Laurie: I feel like they just weren't developed as much as they should have been. I mean, I loved Jo/Laurie and as much as I would want them together, I have to agree that they probably wouldn't have worked as adults. But from the film I just get the idea that Jo married Amy because she was a March and he wanted the family, and Amy mostly married him for his money.

I can get that Amy probably had a crush on him as a little girl, but when they meet again he's just so pouty! There doesn't seem to be much love between them. They just needed to be fleshed out more in that part.

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Yes, I think I can see why people would form that opinion from watching this film, if I am remembering things correctly.

I wish I could watch the Katharine Hepburn version again so I could really compare the versions and how they handled the triangle.

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Wow, I'm so glad to find another Beth fan! I don't know, it just seems like a lot of people write her off as boring, dull, or wishy-washy.

And I agree-her death scene was so beautifully played out. My sister and I still cry over that scene. <3

When Jo turned away to close the window I felt like yelling "No, no, don't do it, she's gonna die if you look away!!" but it was the only right way to portray it. And I liked how Jo curled up on her sister's body afterwards.

JFish:: Yeah, I guess Laurie would have changed over the years and his felings too. What bothered me was that it didn't really seem like the girls (except for Amy) grew up. They seemed to have the same age and the movie didn't do much explaining that the time passed. So as a viewer I still saw them like the girls they had been in the first part of the movie and not the women they grew into.
Also, I think the scenes shere Laurie propose to Jo and then to Beth came too close to each other. So it was like "Jo, I love you, I always have!" and then "Amy, you're an incredible woman AND you're a March, I want you (*cough* so I can be a part of the family *coughcough* and close to Jo)". If I had read the book I might have understood it differently! :P

Age difference. Alright, I dn't know how it was back then but it makes good sense that morals and norms were different from today. However, I think when making a film the director has a responsibility to take his/her modern viewers into consideration. He could have had a few remarks on how good and reasonable it was for a girl to marry an old man far above her own age. Or they could have chosen a guy a little younger so I wouldn't be put off when watching it because I'm not familiar with the historical/cultural context at that time. :-)

Hmm they definitely did a good job in hiding the dad away....

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The other two adaptations I have seen, the guy is definitely older than her, but he looks younger than Garbriel Byrne. However, both the actresses who played Jo were in their early 30's as well. :lol: So fans of the Professor may be complaning "she's too young!".

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Hooray for a Little Women thread! I absolutely love it. :-D It’s one of my favourite films (the one with Winona Ryder – I haven’t seen any of the others!) and I’ve read the book too. It’s just such a heart-warming story. =D On the Jo/Laurie side of things, I like them a lot when they’re younger, when they’re still just having fun and causing chaos. And I don’t think Laurie should have ended up with Amy at all – teensy bit too weird, having been in love with her sister! :blink: Also, I’ll be honest and say that I despise Amy. Maybe it’s just the way she’s portrayed in the film, but I can’t stand how much she thinks about money: “I always knew I would never marry a pauper.”

As for Beth’s death scene, it makes me cry every time! =( It’s just so beautifully done, it breaks my heart!

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