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Post subject:  Posted: June 5th, 2005, 8:55 pm |
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Taurquende wrote: I'm going to say what I said last time: I think of a balrog is basically a huge shadow (and some flames), and shadows and stretch and change, so a balrog can. I think when it wanted to appear intimidating, like it wanted to with Gandalf challenging him. But they weren't actual "wings" they were just shadows of wings. So he couldn't fly back up when he went down with Gandalf.
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Post subject: Posted: June 6th, 2005, 8:39 am |
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i myself believe they have wings...though cant fly with them...but i dont ever intend on going close enough to find out lol  what happens to those of us who get wayy to close to balroges lol(j/k) but i still wouldnt wanna be there... _________________ <img src="http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/3064/mka5il.jpg" alt="it's a twin thing."><br><img src="http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/520/arwen29co.jpg" alt="Daughter of twilight..">
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Post subject: Posted: June 6th, 2005, 10:53 pm |
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I've always wondered this...I'm liking your theory Taurquende. It makes sense. To me Balrogs seem like an undefined shape that embodies evilness (don't know how else to put it lol). They don't really have wings or legs or anything they're just this form made up of flames and shadow that can move through the air. That's how I see them anyways.
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Post subject: Posted: June 7th, 2005, 5:28 am |
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*Sigh* If only Tolkien said if they did or didn;t, then the arguements would be DONE. Though it's good to have a mystery. Check here, it's a very good place to look for this particular topic.
http://tolkien.slimy.com/essays/TAB6.html
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Post subject: Posted: June 7th, 2005, 8:10 am |
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Yeah i think Balrogs have wings but cant fly with them kinda like otriches or w/e those things cant fly but thye have wings  lol anyways
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cause i mean if they could fly dont you think the Balrog would have flown up after Gandalf instead of falling I LOVE THAT ONE!:P lol sorry _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: June 8th, 2005, 12:23 pm |
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Slightly off topic, but can emu's fly?
A balrog could be a sort of... evil emu. No, thats offensive to Tolkien actually, Balrogs are much more eviller!
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Post subject: Posted: June 8th, 2005, 8:25 pm |
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But the chapter says right there, "Its wings were spread from wall to wall."...
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Post subject: Posted: June 9th, 2005, 5:54 am |
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as an aussie i swear emu's dont fly lol but they are nasty thingslol but yeah he did say that but alot of what tolkien says he also contradicts in ohter places or doesnt say what he means. in reality he could have ment anything knowing the dear proffesser, i think he like to challange the brain.
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Post subject: Posted: June 9th, 2005, 9:54 am |
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Balrogs were maier corrupted by Morgoth/Melkor. Gandalf was also a maier, not corrupted, and had equal power. I think the Balrog may have had wings, but Gandalf had some power over him. Most Balrogs were defeated a very long time ago, but the cowardly ones fled. So maybe that balrog of Moria was a weak one and couldnt fly? I really dunno...
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Post subject: Posted: June 11th, 2005, 12:18 am |
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That's a tough one. You see in pictures of other balrogs that they have wings. The balrog of Moria is explained as shadows that appear to be like wings.
I'm clueless on other balrogs....
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Post subject: Posted: June 11th, 2005, 11:48 am |
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Post subject: this topic Posted: June 11th, 2005, 3:00 pm |
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a balrogs a maia spirit, it could have wings whenever it wanted to have them,
they are ainur and can change shape so they could and couldnt
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Post subject: Posted: June 14th, 2005, 10:02 pm |
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I'm liking all of ya'lls theories.........with the shadow and flame...........if he wants wings he can have them................ummmmmmmmm good thinking everyone!!!!!!!
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Post subject: Posted: June 15th, 2005, 5:22 pm |
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Well, I took a look at the picture Alessae posted up and it does look like they have wings - they look like a bat's wings. You've all posted up good points.  _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: June 15th, 2005, 7:28 pm |
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I do remember the balrog having wings in the movie but if you remember from the movie I think Gandalf mentions something about the balrog bieng made of shadow and flame.
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Post subject: Posted: June 16th, 2005, 4:37 pm |
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True. But maybe perhaps the shadows and flames are in the shape of wings? _________________
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