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Post subject: Posted: June 30th, 2006, 10:48 pm |
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Joined: 26 June 2006 Posts: 30 Location: Mirkwood...sometimes Rivendell or Edoras
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Ooh! I am definitely joining! Hardly any of my friends understand my love for Susan!! They all hate her. Isn't that sad???? *sighs* I hated The Last Battle...lol...
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Post subject: Posted: July 1st, 2006, 3:03 am |
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Joined: 18 January 2006 Posts: 2198
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Why? Susan is so kewl....by the way this is lady_E, RinielAranel can you change my name please?
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Post subject: Posted: July 1st, 2006, 6:21 pm |
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Joined: 26 June 2006 Posts: 30 Location: Mirkwood...sometimes Rivendell or Edoras
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I don't know. I guess they all just think she's too...practical. Which is weird because my friends like me and I'm sooo much like Susan...yeah...it's really weird.
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Post subject: Posted: July 5th, 2006, 4:31 am |
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Joined: 18 January 2006 Posts: 2198
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Hmm...by the way do we have a club banner?
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Post subject: Posted: July 12th, 2006, 1:52 pm |
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susan rocks so ic an join? she kick's butt with archery! ^_^
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Post subject: Posted: July 12th, 2006, 2:15 pm |
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Joined: 01 January 2006 Posts: 3183 Location: Lothlorien
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Post subject: Posted: July 12th, 2006, 5:18 pm |
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kool banner! and can I join? plzplz
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Post subject: Posted: July 12th, 2006, 5:23 pm |
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Joined: 18 January 2006 Posts: 2198
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I'm sure you'll be alloud to join Eowyn...welcome to the club  *Waves*
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Post subject: Posted: October 17th, 2006, 2:53 pm |
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Joined: 20 August 2006 Posts: 1426 Location: United States
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ill definitley join!
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Post subject: Posted: October 21st, 2006, 12:07 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: March 15th, 2007, 8:01 pm |
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The last post was Oct 21!
Its so weird, lately I've been in this HUGE Susan Fan mood. which is weird I say because I've always disliked Susan. I thought she was too...umm..girly? and just not...great as Lucy!  and Im still recovering from when she stopped believing in Narnia at the end of TLB when she was my favorite char when I first read the series.
but again Im sure this club will die. again.  but yeah. I just watched LWW this week and remembered how much I like Susan.
so
SUSAN FANS! COME BACK! IM SO LONELY!
ah..all the narnia clubs have died.  *sigh* I suppose it'll all be fine once PC comes out. but the books wont ever fade! 
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Post subject: Posted: March 15th, 2007, 8:18 pm |
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Joined: 06 May 2005 Posts: 15181 Location: Minas Morgul
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I never quite felt Susan was.... that girly ---- but I really like her because of what she stood for. I guess, I mean --- they're normal girls in the 1940's, I guess I didn't see any extreme traits in them.
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Post subject: Posted: March 15th, 2007, 9:06 pm |
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Well, um, I suppose because of Lady Jill's quote in Last Battle: "She's interested nothing nowadays except lipstick and invitations." I guess that was when she was older. but I suppose I just found her slightlier girlier than Lucy when Lucy fought at the Battle of Anvard anSusan stayed behind.
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Post subject: Posted: March 15th, 2007, 10:31 pm |
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Joined: 01 November 2005 Posts: 4785 Location: Middle Earth
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Thanks for reviving the thread TN! I'm afraid I neglected it.  (And I'm so sorry for not adding you! I'll do it immediently.)
Anyway, as for Susan being girly...
Buckle up. This is going to be a long and ranty ride.
I never thought she was girly in the beginning. Susan was my absolute favorite character. I mean, she could go archery. What's un-girly about that? In the later books when she doesn't come out to battle to fight while Lucy does, I was quite confused. That wasn't right at all! It should have been the other way around. Lewis was turning my favorite character into some diva-princess-girly-wimp. Not cool.
Needless to say, I quickly dropped the series when I read the last book. It was actually one of my favorites besides the whole Susan thing. What on earth was that about?? What happened to "Once a queen of Narnia, always a queen of Narnia?" I guess not.  Rawr.
The Susan I know and love would not have laughed off Narnia, would not have stayed in a comfy castle during a battle, and wouldn't have, so it seems, completely and totally forgotten about who she used to be.
But something that really bugs me, is that throughout the series, Susan is the one that struggles. She doesn't always do the right thing, she doesn't always listen to Aslan, but he forgives her in the end and she comes around. That's a lot like us. We make mistakes, but we are forgiven. And then we'll be okay in the long run, right?
Nope. Turns out we don't really have the strength to continue in our beliefs, and renounce them a few years later in life.
 Not encouraging.
Usually it's a good idea to set up a difficult character and then show their redemption, their growth, their overall bettering process. You don't stick them on a pole for all to see and say "Unless you are completely perfect like Lucy, you'll never make it."
That's one of the reasons I liked Susan. She wasn't an overwhelmingly perfect darling like Lucy and Peter, and Edmund after LWW. She made mistakes. She struggled. She reminded me...of me.
(Not that i don't like the others.)
But overall...it just makes me mad.
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Post subject: Posted: March 15th, 2007, 11:12 pm |
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Joined: 06 May 2005 Posts: 15181 Location: Minas Morgul
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I agree, Ara. It's really not fair really, but I can understand Susan's reaction and her lost of faith after Aslan told she and Peter "are never to return to Narnia" because they simply became too old. That part always bothered me. CS Lewis seemed too enthused to make Susan an example of a person with no faith. I LOVE Susan, and I LOVE her because I, too, relate to her by their mistakes and by the way she thinks.
Susan likes to think logically, so even though she herself have seen Narnia, the idea of not being able to go back disturbed her and -logically- her mind told her, it never existed. They were just children.
I hated yet loved the Last Battle, hated it because of how badly they spoke of Susan without any details about the circumstances of her growing up; loved it because of how realistic it felt.
In regards of Susan's absence at the Battle of Anvard ---- I didn't mind that; in fact I loved her more about that because she stood for feminity and nonviolent leadership. Who would lead Narnia when their kings and queens went to battle? Who would control the "behind-the-scenes" so to say. I imagine that Susan the Gentle would be in her most powerful and most valiant state when she does not wield a weapon, but her mind.
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Post subject: Posted: March 16th, 2007, 12:19 pm |
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Joined: 01 November 2005 Posts: 4785 Location: Middle Earth
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That's a very good point about the battle of Anvard - I had never thought about it that way. But the book never suggests that, Lucy just sort of says, "Oh, she'd rather stay at home and be comfortable," which really doesn't sound that great at all. I just wish Lewis would have developed her a bit more, such as giving a reason like you did or telling us why she suddenly decided to become so girly in the first place.
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