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Post subject: Posted: November 8th, 2006, 10:35 pm |
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I know, that is so sad. Especially like five minutes before that scene, you see Boromir and Faramir drinking together, celebrating. That scene was my favorite scene with Boromir, but his departure comes pretty close...You get to see how heroic he is.
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Post subject: Posted: November 8th, 2006, 11:07 pm |
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I've got to say... I have 2 favorite Boromir scenes.
Number one is his death... even in dying you can see the passion for his people, and the selflessness. And when he asks Aragorn to forgive him, goodness. Are there any words to describe how heroic that was? Out of all his deeds, and all his valor... that was the bravest thing he ever did... to humble himself before Aragorn in such a way.
In fact, I wrote a whole essay on that scene... I'll have to dig it up sometime.
My second favorite scene is much on the lighter side... when Boromir is teaching Merry and Pippin swordplay. I think it just shows the complete human side of Boromir, the side we can all identify with. Boromir had a true knack for understanding emotions; that's why he got so upset when Aragorn wanted to press on after Gandalf's death. Because Boromir not only felt his own pain, he could feel the others pain as well. He was a leader, he knew how to feel with his people. And likewise, he knew how to express joy and mirth when others felt joy and mirth, by not being angered at the silly hobbits.
Okay, someone shut me up, before I start really Boromir-rambling...  I can do this all night, believe me.
*zips mouth, and throws self in a corner*
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Post subject: Posted: November 9th, 2006, 12:05 pm |
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lol.  I think it is sad when Aragorn says after Boromir dies: They will look for his coming at the White Tower, but he will not return.
its in the EE, and I think that is right along the lines what he says. 
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Post subject: Posted: November 9th, 2006, 12:08 pm |
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Caunion the Frost Lord wrote: I know, that is so sad. Especially like five minutes before that scene, you see Boromir and Faramir drinking together, celebrating. That scene was my favorite scene with Boromir, but his departure comes pretty close...You get to see how heroic he is.
same from my part too. My fav scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqXl5ebNeqA.
http://arwen-undomiel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11988 here is the thread I opened to discuss the scene above. We can of course discuss here.
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Post subject: Posted: November 9th, 2006, 2:02 pm |
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Boromir's death is one of my all-time favorite scenes. It's heart-rending, but so beautiful. On Boromir's side of things, he realizes how wrong he's been, and is sorry for it. It's so sad, because he's dying thinking that everything he knows and loves is going to fail, and all he has is the slight assurances Aragorn has given him. Also, I'm sure he knew that this meant that Faramir would be wholly alone now, and would have to deal with Denethor alone. And he probably also was thinking about the fact that Frodo would think ill of him forever.
I also adore the scene in TTT EE with Boromir and Faramir. It always makes me cry. But it's so wonderful to see Boromir and Faramir together, and see that they had a good relationship. Boromir stood up for his brother, even though he easily could have just been happy about all the praise Denethor gave him and taken the credit for himself.
I also like the sword fighting scene. It's so sweet, seeing Boromir reaching out and helping the hobbits... it shows a side of his character that we rarely get to see, but that is none the less there.
The scene where Boromir and Aragorn are talking in Lorien is also an all-time favorite of mine. It's... so beautiful and sad. It's not very often that you really get inside Boromir's head, and the un-observant LotR fans normally don't even think about how hard everything is on Boromir. But there we get to see how much he's suffering, but how much he still loves his country, and how willing he is to keep fighting on even without hope.
And... *looks up over post* Wow, this is turning out long! I could go on for forever though... 
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Post subject: Posted: November 9th, 2006, 5:23 pm |
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Oh, there is another scene with Boromir that was really really sweet. It's when Aragorn is trying to get the Fellowship in Lothlorien and talking to Haldir, who won't let them in because of Frodo and the Ring. Boromir knows that Frodo was really close with Gandalf so he tries to comfort him. That scene was so emotional. Most people think poor Boromir is wicked and evil but really he isn't. He just need some understanding, like everyone else.
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Post subject: Posted: November 11th, 2006, 2:13 am |
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Too bad Boromir died at the end of the first movie but this death clearly I believe made him more valuable than anyone else in the story. I wish that Peter would have shown the EE of Two Towers may be half of the people who thought of him is evil now would think the contrary. Yeah you said FrostLord he needs a lot.
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Post subject: Posted: November 18th, 2006, 10:22 pm |
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*gasp* This thing had sunken to page 4! tut-tut.
Anyhow, I agree, that yes his death did boost him considerably. But! Even without it he would have remained a fantastic character.
Can you imagine if Boromir hadn't died, how the story would've gone? *weirded out*
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Post subject: Posted: November 18th, 2006, 11:31 pm |
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Well.....Aragorn would have kicked Boromir out of the Fellowship for trying to steal the Ring. And at that point, Boromir would have committed suicide from dishonor.
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Post subject: Posted: November 19th, 2006, 4:23 am |
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Boromir and Aragorn would have challenged on everything I guess. However, I do not think Boromir would try to take the ring again till they came to Gondor. Aragorn would not kick him out of the fellowship since he has not chosen him in the beginning.
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Post subject: Posted: November 19th, 2006, 8:30 pm |
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Yeah, I think Aragorn understood Boromir more than we know. That was sort of portrayed in the book, more than the movie. After all, being the two mortals of the Fellowship, there had to have been some sort of special bond between them, aye?
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Post subject: Posted: November 23rd, 2006, 12:37 pm |
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(Disclaimer: This is an obvious *BUMP* and shameless spam. But really, Boromir is worth it. )
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Post subject: Posted: November 23rd, 2006, 1:57 pm |
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Well, actually then Merry and Pippin wouldn't be captured. They wouldn't end up in Fangorn Forest or found Treebeard. No Last March of the Ents. It's quite amazing how badly the story can change if you change one detail. And there might have been a special bond between Boromir and Aragorn, seeing both of them are of noble birth and the race of Men.
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Post subject: Posted: November 23rd, 2006, 2:06 pm |
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Yeah very true. No Merry and Pippin would be captured. May be one of the halflings would be dead. Remember Boromir blocked one Uruk's slash 
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Post subject: Posted: November 24th, 2006, 6:23 pm |
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Indeed, one detail can change everything. For instance, if Boromir had never tried to take the ring, Frodo probably would have never split off. And that, in my opinion, would have been horrid. A lot more fights and squabbles, a lot less bonding. Aragorn would probably have died trying to take care of them all, Merry and Pip would have never matured so quickly... goodness.
I'm so glad Tolkien thought the way he did.
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Post subject: Posted: November 24th, 2006, 9:23 pm |
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True, but I wish he didn't had Boromir killed...poor Boromir.
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