Haha yeah I guess that's true.. the beats are good (for dances and things?) but once you find out what the lyrics are it's kind of .. ugly. Like, at school, I sit in the cafeteria with my friends and on the stage, they blast the loudest and most profanely brainless rap/hiphop/R&B music.. it's very stupid because MOST of the school prefers rock music (I don't.. but the lyrics make loads more sense) and yet they play what they play. It's ridiculous.. the other day, I went to the stage and pulled the plug. Yeah I had to do garbage duty for three days and lunches because of it, but that was pretty satisfying.

Well I figured that most rap/hiphop/R&B songs consist of maybe five words that they repeat over and over again for three minutes, and the so-called "artists" make millions out of those few words. Ridiculous, much? Some people work so hard and they can't even make 1/12 of what these rappers do. Ugh.

And I DO like old rap... that stuff is 10000x more meaningful than today's rap, which kind of saddens me. Oh well.

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and there you have it. old rap is better. and mommy...i love you. that is awesome that you pulled the plug...amen to that

for me, its not even that they repeat words. i listen to alternative a lot which tends to be very repetitive....its just the words that they CHOOSE...and the whole making millions...

so i basically agree with everything you said...well put.

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QFT!

I like to give all types of music a chance and i've found that, if i try hard enough, i can usually find at least something about a song that i like. Also, most of the music in a certain genre is usually not in line with the stereotype associated with that genre.

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I normally don't like rap...if it's nothing but thoughtless junk. Some rap songs, I've found I actually like one or two because someone put some thought into them. But most songs I think are disgusting. It's sad the way society's standards have sunk so far we settle for this.

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Seriously!? I wish mine was like that. The rock lovers are a small minority.


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I figured out it's not lyrics I hate, but beat and vidoes. Haha, weird.

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It's funny that a lot of people point out lyrics as a big factor in why they hate rap. Personally I find the lyrics to be the only part i like about rap. (and they sometimes have some awesome riffs and beats but since its a loop it gets stale fast haha) I think a lot of people don't appreciate how hard it is to write flowing poetry that makes sense and has a progressive rhyme scheme. It's pretty dang hard in my opinion.

Btw: Only mainstream rap songs arent all about pimps and whores and stuff (and part of the reason they are mainstream is because of this edginess). Most of them have very deep and meaningful lyrics. Case in point: look up the lyrics for Eminems "Lose Yourself".

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^Well Eminem is probably one of the only exceptions because he raps about his life.

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wowowowow.

You really shouldnt say stuff like that if you don't know what you're talking about Haldir.

I feel for people who like rap and hip hop because (just like metal) the genre is so misunderstood and stereotyped.

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Are you saying you don't think Eminem raps about his life or somethinig? 'Cause that's kind of obvious to me...


Personally, I fall rather close to the middle. I listen to rap and rock, with country inbetween. Mostly it's rap for me, but I ONLY listen to edited versions if I can help it. There are some songs my brother has that I really like that are unedited, but I sadly don't have any will power and listen anyway.

The rock that I listen to is quite limited. If you had asked me a couple of years ago, I'd have told you I listen to rock heavily, but since the take over of emo, and styles like emo, and the insane amount of increasingly weird rock artists... sometimes I feel a little safer listening to T.I. talk about life in the hood of the A. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE bands like Nickelback, All American Rejects, and Switchfoot...

But Fall Out Boy and groups like that... you really want me to be honest? (no offense to ANYONE on this forum who likes Fall Out Boy) I saw a music video and wanted to hurl. They're just "bleh" to me; I don't care for that particular sub-genre to much.

But since most of you don't like rap, I guess me not liking a few rock artists is OK, right?

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lol, i guess i should have made myself more clear.

I was focusing on the "one of the only exceptions" part as opposed to the "raps about his life" part. If Haldir thinks that Eminem is one of the only artists who doesnt rap about sluts and pimps then she's sadly mistaken.

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Oh. My B!!!!!

There are lots of rap artists who rap about their lives, that is very true; Eminem just does it in a more profound way IMO.

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I know exactly what I'm talking about. There's no need to be so rude to me, okay? Did I not say that he was "one" of the only exceptions? Did I say he was the ONLY exception? Good lord.

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Sorry Haldir, I didnt mean to offend. I promise.

However i still think you don't know a lot about rap. I dont know a lot either, but i know enough about stereotypes to know that the "rap = sluts & drugs" stereotype is false. All I'm trying to get across is that people shouldn't be judging a genre of music based on the stereotype that goes along with that genre. Saying "I hate rap because the lyrics are offensive to women" is stupid because (like i said earlier) most rap isn't derogitory. Its the same exact thing with the metal stereotype. To an ignorant person metal = "loud, (which btw doesnt make any sense... if its too loud then turn down the volume ) screaming, satanic noise". That's not even metal their talking about... its select death metal and goregrind bands. Why then do people think of metal and think of that? Because goregrind is unruly and ridiculous and its been blamed for numerous suicides/crimes. When someone who isnt familiar with metal hears headlines about how metal played a part a school shooting, they automatically associate all metal with it. Thus, a stereotype is born. It's the extremes that get the most attention and most often screw things up for the rest of the genre.

So saying "all rap besides Eminem and a few other exceptions is derogitory" is just as stereotypical as saying "metal is just loud noise" or even "all nerds and geeks have no friends."

But as for Eminem being one of the few rap artists who raps about his life... ever heard of gangster rap? It's one of the msot popular sub-genres of rap and all they sing about life in the hood and in gangs and stuff. You may not be able to relate to lyrics about shooting an opposing gang member but it doesnt make them less meaningful to those who can.

and i never said you said he's the only exception.

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Most rap songs have mini melodies they play over and over again. Like riffs I guess you could say. But even if you don't consider that to be music, what would you consider it to be?

Even though its sometimes thought of as a seperate genre, I'm pretty sure that rap is a subgenre of hip-hop. Kind of like how metal is thought of as its own genre by many people but its actually a subgenre of rock.

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*Sniffles* You make me sad. Rock has improved significantly since the "take over of emo." And truthfully, there are weirder people at my high school (Today a guy I know wore purple velvet pants and his girlfriend's coat to school ).

I just realized the utter pointlessness of this thread, as all it is is people who can't relate to rap bashing those who can, and those who can relate to rap but not to other genres bashing the people who can. No one ever gets anywhere, as there is no "right and wrong" in kinds of music...