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Post subject: Posted: December 14th, 2006, 4:44 pm |
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Joined: 14 December 2006 Posts: 709 Location: In my Imagination
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Well I was going to go and see it but now, I'm not so sure.
I like things to be original and if its copied off other things, it'll just ruin it for me.
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Post subject: Posted: December 19th, 2006, 5:36 pm |
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Aerandir wrote: Yeah. There are definately similarities to LotR in Eragon. But actually, there are for more similarities to Star Wars.
Eragon = Luke Skywalker Murtagh = Han Solo Brom = Obi-wan Kenobi Galbatorix = Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader Arya = Leia Organa Solo Dragon Riders = Jedi Knights What's-his-name(the one who trains Eragon in Du Weldenvarden) = Yoda The Varden = The Rebel Alliance
Etc. etc.
Wow, I've thought of the same thing!
Having read Eldest, I would differ slightly and say that Morzan is Anakin/Vader and Galbatorix is Emperor Palpatine.
"what's-his-name" is Oromis, btw.
Hm... so if Murtagh is Han, and Arya is Leia, do you think they'll end up together? lol.
I guess Thorn would have to be Chewbacca.
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Post subject: Posted: December 19th, 2006, 10:33 pm |
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Eragon-Aragorn
Arya-Arwen
Vanilor[a dragon]-Valinor
Isenstar [a lake on the map]-Isengard/Evenstar
Human-Elf-Dwarf trio
And all the symbols for North, East, South and West on the map in the front page of Eragon are Elvish symbols that can be found in TLotR appendices.
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Post subject: Posted: December 20th, 2006, 1:42 pm |
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Joined: 15 September 2006 Posts: 626 Location: With Frodo and Sam in the Shire
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I agree! The book is absolutley fantastic but yes there are very many similarities. In fact the very first scene of teh shade completley reminded me of Gothmog. The Wurguls sound liek Orc like creatures too.
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Post subject: Posted: December 22nd, 2006, 6:35 am |
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Joined: 02 January 2006 Posts: 5728 Location: Mithlond Country:
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You mean Urgals? Lol....never heard them called Wurguls before...
Out of curiousity, how does Durza remind you of Gothmog?
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Post subject: Posted: December 22nd, 2006, 11:16 am |
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tee thats the one! I read the book aaageees ago hee hee.
Durza reminds me of Gothmog in the way in which he creates a presence. It's the whole atmosphere around him, the way in which he order the urgals around and the way in which he has such an attitude about him. He just does i guess...don't you agree?
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Post subject: Posted: December 23rd, 2006, 12:49 am |
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ForeverFrodo wrote: Aerandir wrote: Yeah. There are definately similarities to LotR in Eragon. But actually, there are for more similarities to Star Wars.
Eragon = Luke Skywalker Murtagh = Han Solo Brom = Obi-wan Kenobi Galbatorix = Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader Arya = Leia Organa Solo Dragon Riders = Jedi Knights What's-his-name(the one who trains Eragon in Du Weldenvarden) = Yoda The Varden = The Rebel Alliance
Etc. etc. That's exactly what I thought when I read it. It seems like a mixture of elements from LotR and even more from Star Wars. And I would not be surprised if Galbatorix turned out to be Eragon's father at the end. Nice book, though. 
Uh... Don't we already know Galbatorix is Eragon's dad? From Eldest? If Murtagh is is brother, right?
And also, Eragon finding the egg is like Luke Skywalker finding the droids.
I'm not actually allowed to finish reading the trilogy or see the movie because of the use of magic Paolini has in it. There's no distinguished good/bad magic, and they use it for everything, and they don't rely on their own strength. I find Paolini's writing extremly weak and choppy, and unfocused some as well.
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Post subject: Posted: December 24th, 2006, 8:05 am |
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Joined: 12 December 2006 Posts: 63 Location: Riding in the beautiful forest of Middle-Earth
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of course there a similarities..
Eragon..Aragorn..???
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Post subject: Posted: December 24th, 2006, 5:16 pm |
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Joined: 24 December 2006 Posts: 91 Location: Somewhere between this world and the next...
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Don't even get me started on Eragon vs. LOTR. He copied sooooo much!!! GRRRRR.... But, after all that, I like the book. I didn't see the movie though, heard it was bad and I didn't want to ruin my mental image.
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Post subject: Posted: December 28th, 2006, 1:29 am |
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The Nightingale wrote: ForeverFrodo wrote: Aerandir wrote: Yeah. There are definately similarities to LotR in Eragon. But actually, there are for more similarities to Star Wars.
Eragon = Luke Skywalker Murtagh = Han Solo Brom = Obi-wan Kenobi Galbatorix = Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader Arya = Leia Organa Solo Dragon Riders = Jedi Knights What's-his-name(the one who trains Eragon in Du Weldenvarden) = Yoda The Varden = The Rebel Alliance
Etc. etc. That's exactly what I thought when I read it. It seems like a mixture of elements from LotR and even more from Star Wars. And I would not be surprised if Galbatorix turned out to be Eragon's father at the end. Nice book, though.  Uh... Don't we already know Galbatorix is Eragon's dad? From Eldest? If Murtagh is is brother, right? And also, Eragon finding the egg is like Luke Skywalker finding the droids. I'm not actually allowed to finish reading the trilogy or see the movie because of the use of magic Paolini has in it. There's no distinguished good/bad magic, and they use it for everything, and they don't rely on their own strength. I find Paolini's writing extremly weak and choppy, and unfocused some as well.
Morzan is Eragons dad actually.
Yes there are way to many simalatarties, but it is not like lotr its self the story at least. In lotr there are no good dragon riders, the bad ones are the Nazguls riding the fell beast. LOTR though is deffinatley better. I appreciate Eragon becuase it was written by a 15 year old, and thats why it could look choppy, you gotta give the boy some slack.  (Though I do think he should take some classes on writing) The story is pretty awesome, but probally would be better if he spent a longer time on it.
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Post subject: Posted: December 28th, 2006, 7:12 am |
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Eldarwen wrote: I appreciate Eragon becuase it was written by a 15 year old, and thats why it could look choppy, you gotta give the boy some slack.  (Though I do think he should take some classes on writing) The story is pretty awesome, but probally would be better if he spent a longer time on it.
Ditto to all that. The fact that he was 15 when he wrote it does make a little more acceptable that it was poorly written, but he definitely does need to take some more writing classes.
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Post subject: Posted: December 28th, 2006, 8:23 pm |
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Joined: 24 December 2006 Posts: 91 Location: Somewhere between this world and the next...
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Yes, Paolini should take writing classes.  But they actually are otherwise pretty good.
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Post subject: Posted: December 30th, 2006, 12:42 pm |
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Joined: 19 July 2006 Posts: 6433 Location: somewhere sympathy is more than just a way of leaving
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The thing that people need to understand is that all writers are influenced by other writers they admire. Of course, there are going to be similarities. Stories are created from people's minds, so obviously what is in their minds is going to be in their stories. If a certain author or book is in their mind, it will be reflected in their works. That's what I think.
Having said that, there are definitely a lot of similarities between LOtR and Eragon that I noticed from the beginning, even more than have been listed here. I never really thought about it being similar to Star Wars, but now that you guys mention it, there are even more similarities between those two. I haven't gotten around to reading Eldest yet, but I can tell there will be more parallels as the story continues, and I can already guess a lot of what's going to happen.
Also, I don't think Christopher Paolini is anywhere near Tolkien's class. For me, Tolkien is a cut above everything I've ever read and probably ever will read. Christopher Paolini writes well, but not nearly as well as Tolkien, and he could definitely improve.
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Post subject: Posted: December 30th, 2006, 4:38 pm |
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Joined: 24 December 2006 Posts: 91 Location: Somewhere between this world and the next...
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Absolutely agreed Tinuviel's Tears. I write, and I know that many of my ideas are influenced by my favorite authors. I just think his parallels to LOTR and Star Wars are a little too obvious.
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Post subject: Posted: January 1st, 2007, 9:45 am |
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Joined: 25 December 2006 Posts: 99 Location: Imladris
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I have read all of your comments and I have to agree with most of you! The young author's certainly wrote with LOTR and Star Wars in mind even though he subconsciously may not have meant too. AnywayI enjoyed it and am now diving onto the Eldest. My worry is about seeing the movie! I don't want it to ruin the book for me if it is not up to the LOTR movies. I already know that nothing can compare to what Peter Jackson did. Have any of you seen the movie, and if so would you say; YA OR NA? 
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Post subject: Posted: January 1st, 2007, 9:47 am |
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Joined: 02 January 2006 Posts: 5728 Location: Mithlond Country:
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I haven't seen the movie yet, but so far I haven't heard a single positive review of it, and if it's anything like the game (Which I have played), then it's extremely inaccurate and barely follows the book at all.
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