^I agree, you should set standards. There are plenty of girls around to accomodate the guys who... Well, we shan't go there.

And what you have to know, is that there are some guys around who share the same set of values as you have expressed. In fact, in my opinion what you have said is not demanding at all, and is something I would expect from the girl I chose. Self-respect is important

And to join the crew, I'm a bit of an old fashioned romantic. It is so much more interesting that way.

Larael, beware of fantacising too much! Never romaticise a boy, no matter if you've met him or not. It would be awful to dream up the perfect bf and the real one let you down.

Self-respect is important as a few of you have said, but confidence is what I really value. That and humility. I can't stand it when a guy has zero confidence to make the first move because I'll never make the first one, and if your head's too big to get in the door, it's time for some deflating!

It's a fine line, I suppose.

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And so less cheap, isn't it? I don't really want to waste myself now, at such a young age -- I'd rather save my heart in its entirity for one man. That's not to say I'll know who the one is just by looking for him, or not date other guys without any heartbreak. But I won't give myself up to any guy so easily, I guess is what I'm trying to say.

I just think that now, like in high school, girls feel like they have to have a boyfriend to matter, they have to be attractive to guys. I mean, if a girl goes out with so many guys, what is she going to have left with the man she wants to spend the rest of her life with? I mean, I know I'm looking for a man to spend the rest of my life with, but I know not everyone is. So it just depends, I guess. Does that make sense?

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<By Bubble Black

Perfect sense. They're are lots of people who we like and enjoy, but could never live with. It's OK to spend time with them becauset there is obviously something there that attracts us, but we can't get too caught up because it most likely is just a passing fancy.

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at one point, I was alejandrah.

@ Gwenny: Aww I did sort of the same thing. I haven't actually written letters but I have fantasized about well.. my first meeting with him, an' all that jazz. Not childish at all Gwen. A girl can definitely dream as long as it doesn't get in the way of real life.

And what you say does make sense. Dating now gives good experience for later in life, but it also gives you heartache because you already know that you won't be with this person forever. In secondary school, high school, [whatever you wanna call it] you're not quite mature enough for those long term relationships. I guess that's why people don't get married til their into their twenties or beyond. You're much more mature and ready for a commitment like that.

Just think what it would've been like to marry hundreds of years ago? Some girls married as young as 14! That means I could've been married 2 years ago. Craaazy..

^I think even as young as 12... In the Middle Ages and stuff. 'Cause I think as soon as they *cough* well, erm, [I think everyone knows what I'm talking about by now] showed signs of being able to bear children...ahem. And the girls would marry guys who were like 35 years old. Yikes! And they'd start having kids right away, because they had to. *shudders* So then your oldest child could be as little as 12 years apart from their mother. Oh yeah, and my friend once told me that one of her teacher's classrooms is decorated with random facts all across the walls, and one of them says that the youngest girl to ever give birth was 5 years old! I don't even think that's possible. There's many reasons why that don't need to be taken into detail.


Ooookay. How I got excited enough about this to type so much is a mystery. Or something just plain creepy.

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I know what you all mean. It seems to me, that during school, people don't 'go out' because of how they feel. It is more that they see that having a boy/girlfriend is a social status symbol. Going out with someone increases your social standing :|

Admittedly it is useful to get some experience in, but still, somethings that go on are ridiculous. Even at the stage I am at, whilst people are more serious, and relationships last longer, those doing the dating know that in the long run, it isn't going to last. And that seems a little pointless to me.

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OK, I've been really silly. I've been worried so much about friendships I forgot a few details.

The boy with the myspace still wants to go out and the my friend is saying I won't let it come between us.

Meanwhile, I've forgotten to mention Alex. My bf. So Tyler still wants to date and my friend, Jessica is still mad at me. It's all infuriating because when I tell Alex, he laughs at me and makes a joke.

I must admit though, he is great stress relief like that.

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at one point, I was alejandrah.

Wait, so you already have a boyfriend, and this other guy still wants to go out with you? I just want to make sure I'm understanding correctly.

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<By Bubble Black

pretty much. Insane isn't it? Even more insane that it has slipped my mind this long. I blame my parents. *lol*

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at one point, I was alejandrah.

Whoa.. that got a million times more complicated.

@ Gwen: 5 years old?! No way. I mean, that's just not possible. I've heard it was actually an 11 year old. She's from England and it was all over the BBC. I couldn't believe it. She wasn't even worried or anything! If that were me I'd be absolutely terrified! To think children as young as 8 or 9 are able to have children. That's just not right..

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It's true. You can look it up about the 5 year old. She had some disorder, and it was really weird.

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at one point, I was alejandrah.

Are you kidding me?! 2 or 3 year olds having children? 5 year olds having children? That's absolutely awful. I can't even imagine having children now. *scoots off to Wikipedia*

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