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Post subject: Posted: July 23rd, 2007, 7:02 pm |
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^^ In the epilogue he is 36 possible 37 depending on the time of the year.....I would think 37 because he's sending his kids off...
But it's still weird because I can't remeber if his oldest son was in his 2nd or 3rd year but if he was in his second that means that harry was 24 and ginny was 22 when james was born...that doesn't give ginny a lot of time to start any type of job before getting married and having kids...so maybe she didn't work and only harry did.....either way that's really young...that would be like me getting married and having a kid within the next 2 years....i can't even imagine...
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Post subject: Posted: July 23rd, 2007, 7:27 pm |
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Joined: 30 March 2006 Posts: 5406 Location: Alabama, USA
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I believe James was a third year. And they're not that young; my parents got married when my dad was nineteen and my mom was twenty, then had my brother that may before their first anniversery. It actually happens all the time. =]] I imagine it's super common in the wizarding world, too.
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Post subject: Posted: July 23rd, 2007, 7:54 pm |
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Joined: 12 June 2005 Posts: 687 Location: Lórien (Connecticut)
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Ashwise - Yes, Sirius does make a small appearance towards the end. I can see why you're asking he's one of my favorite characters too.
Ron and Hermione must've gotten married around the same time as Harry and Ginny, and them all getting married in their early twenties doesn't surprise me at all. They did have a few years since DH to build up their relationships. 
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Post subject: Posted: July 23rd, 2007, 9:21 pm |
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~*ArwenEvenstar*~ wrote: Oh, I also loved the Potterwatch thing. That was hilarious. And I agree about all of the unnecessary deaths- I was a bit surprised how many people died for no reason. Potterwatch was amazing. Great spot of light in the middle. Unnecessary deaths ---I'm not sure they were completely unnecessary. I mean, you have to have someone close die, or else it wouldn't hit home in the same way. But killing Fred....  He was my absolute favorite character! I think the deaths though, weren't done right. They were just kind of..glossed over. Like, Harry was looking over here and here were more dead people he knew. That just kind of took away the feeling. At least with Fred she described it a bit and had Ron and Percy doing their bits. Quote: The part where Ron and Hermione started kissing right before they found the diadem made me laugh so hard. And I've never even been much of an H/R. H/G all the way for me!! That was great! "Save it for later". I like the H/R angle, but I've never been a fan of the Harry/Ginny one. We just really never get to know Ginny. She just suddenly pops up and Harry falls for her. I dunno, but that ruined the epilogue for me. I don't think I'll read that bit again. And, as mentioned, you don't hear what happens to Luna or Dean or George or anyone except the trio and Neville. Quote: I loved it when Percy came back... that whole scene was great.
I loved that bit! I literally got up and danced around the room when Percy came out of the tunnel.  Awesomeness.
As for Snapey----WONDERFUL!! Too bad he didn't get more say in the book, but I loved how it all was explained and how it showed how he was in love with Lily and everything he did was for her. Too bad he died the way he did.
Harry...the fact that he kind of died was good. I was expecting permanent sacrifice, but I think JK did a pretty good job with it. Seeing Dumbledore as human who makes mistakes, that was good. And Harry's fight with Voldemort and the discussion about the Elder wand and all that...loved that bit.
NEVILLE!! I swear I am in love with that boy. When he brought out Godric's sword and chopped of Nagini's head...jumping for joy. I'm so glad he finally got his due. And his Gran being all proud and cursing the Death Eaters who came for her..
All in all, loved the book. The book itself was brilliance, the epilogue was incredibly not worthy to share the same cover and title and is henceforth burned from my memory.
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Post subject: Posted: July 23rd, 2007, 10:08 pm |
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It's kind of hard to believe that I've now read the final HP book. I'm a little sad that I rushed it, as I'm working at a camp this week and I know that if I don't have it finished someone will spoil it. But the book. The book... Now that I'm done I want to laugh and cry hysterically and beat the wall and jump for joy and it's just... GAH. I'm still having trouble composing a review for it, as it's like I'm in shock.
Oh thank goodness. I'm not the only one who absolutely despised the epilogue. I feel that a story as rich, wonderful, and dark as this shouldn't have had a sugar-coated happy ending. The book was mostly brilliant, but those last chapters after Harry 'died' were horrible.
I feel there are two other things worthy of getting their own paragraphs from me.
Nurrantiel Mashiara wrote: But killing Fred....  He was my absolute favorite character! Fred. God. That one made me cry a lot. He died as he lived- - joking, but that just doesn't cut it for me. Of all of the deaths, I feel his was just unnecessary and vicious on the part of the author. I keep thinking of poor George... *Sniffle* That's the part of the book that really has me in shock. Nurrantiel Mashiara wrote: NEVILLE!! I swear I am in love with that boy. When he brought out Godric's sword and chopped of Nagini's head...jumping for joy. I'm so glad he finally got his due. And his Gran being all proud and cursing the Death Eaters who came for her.. 
Though he had a rather small part in most of the book, I was insanely satisfied by his role. His "I'll join you, when hell freezes over" bit to Voldemort's face was just... AWESOME. While it irks me slightly that he didn't personally kill Bellatrix, though without him slaying Nagini everything would have failed. He showed the courage we all knew he had, and has finally become the great wizard he was destined to be. My favorite character by far.
More when I come back to reality. 
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Post subject: Posted: July 23rd, 2007, 10:13 pm |
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Joined: 30 March 2006 Posts: 5406 Location: Alabama, USA
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I agree. Much love for Neville as well. Nev, we love you man, let's just face it!
(someone please help me! Poor Draco in my fanfic is having tendencies to Muggle beer...)
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I have a new theory as to why the epilogue sucked so bad. I suspect NARGLES were behind it. 
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Post subject: Posted: July 23rd, 2007, 11:11 pm |
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^Brilliant theory. I agree completely.
If only nargles could bring Fred back from the dead...
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Post subject: Posted: July 23rd, 2007, 11:58 pm |
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Yes- that's it!!!! I agree.
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Post subject: Posted: July 24th, 2007, 1:48 am |
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Joined: 30 March 2006 Posts: 5406 Location: Alabama, USA
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Is it not? Actually, I'm starting to suspect Nargles are behind everything. As well as Snackle Horned Pumphidids. =]]
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Post subject: Posted: July 24th, 2007, 3:03 am |
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Oh, good! I'm not the only one who thought the Epilogue was weird!
I just finished it! Overall a good ending, though really I don't think Jo should have put such an emphasis on wands. But Snape was great! Really a shame that he wasn't very prominint through the whole book, but to find out how he adored Lily... just heartbreaking!  I'm such a sucker for that kind of stuff.  (Anyone want to start a Lily/Severus shipper club?  )
I was crying when James, Sirius, Lupin, and Lily came back. Got a little teary when I found out both Lupin and Tonks had died, as well. Fred... it was such a shame! But it was wonderful how Percy wouldn't leave his body.
Now, back to the Epilogue... I don't know, I guess it was just such a contrast. From the sober, solitary moment in the Headmaster's office to all that? Weird. But I thought maybe that was due to the fact I really believed the second son should have been named Sirius.  When I figured out his name was Albus, I kept imagining a miniature Dumbledore. 
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Post subject: Posted: July 24th, 2007, 10:09 am |
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Yeah, it's hard to picture a kid that looks like Harry and is named Albus. I can just bet, though, that it's James Sirius and Albus Severus. That would make sense. I think the worst part about the epilogue was that Hermione and Ron didn't name their son some variation of Fred. He deserved to be named. 
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Post subject: Posted: July 24th, 2007, 10:53 am |
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Blah, the epilogue was disgusting. Personally, I'm sharing MB's hopes that Ginny dies and Harry adopts Teddy. It makes perfect sense, seeing as they didn't say who brought Teddy to the Platform 9 and 3/4. Ron and Hermione was all right. But Harry and Ginny? My face was contorted in disgust when I read that.
The moment with Snape, though, really compensates for the epilogue. Where you see that he loved Lily and all that hype. But why, oh why, did she have to kill Fred?! I feel sorry for George now. It's like Frodo without Sam, totally unthinkable. Aside from the epilogue, the book was nicely done though. I'm starting to agree with the Doctor.
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Post subject: Posted: July 24th, 2007, 11:38 am |
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The book was brilliant. It was amazing, and I loved every bit of it. The epilogue was totally unnecessary and I'm never going to read it again. The true ending was perfect in Dumbledore's office --sad, but happy at the same time.
Right, who else felt like cheering when Kreacher led the house elves out to fight? I totally loved that! He's one of my favorites now. 
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Post subject: Posted: July 24th, 2007, 11:39 am |
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Joined: 30 March 2006 Posts: 5406 Location: Alabama, USA
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But it was 19 years later and Teddy was born in the book. He would be 18 or 19 years old when the epilogue took place. Then it would only make sense he was there to see of his "brothers" and Victoire. =]]
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Post subject: Posted: July 24th, 2007, 12:33 pm |
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Joined: 17 October 2006 Posts: 2763 Location: England
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Nurrantiel Mashiara wrote: Right, who else felt like cheering when Kreacher led the house elves out to fight? I totally loved that! He's one of my favorites now. 
That bit was good  I still don't really like Kreacher though...
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Post subject: Posted: July 24th, 2007, 2:32 pm |
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Emri wrote: But it was 19 years later and Teddy was born in the book. He would be 18 or 19 years old when the epilogue took place. Then it would only make sense he was there to see of his "brothers" and Victoire. =]] Ah... I didn't think of that. I guess I assumed he was the same age as James Jr., although thinking it through, that makes no sense at all.  Nurrantiel Mashiara wrote: Yeah, it's hard to picture a kid that looks like Harry and is named Albus. I can just bet, though, that it's James Sirius and Albus Severus. That would make sense. I think the worst part about the epilogue was that Hermione and Ron didn't name their son some variation of Fred. He deserved to be named. I think you're right! That makes me feel better.  I agree, Ron and Hermione's kid should have been named after Fred.  I never really got "Rose" and "Hugo." I guess they're supposed to sound kind of like "Ron" and "Hermione." Caunion the Time Lord wrote: It makes perfect sense, seeing as they didn't say who brought Teddy to the Platform 9 and 3/4.
Well, Tonks said she left him with her mother, so I suppose he'd been raised by his grandmother.
I don't think the Epilogue was completely unnecessary... it just had a really weird feel to it, the way it was all picture perfect and... normal. I guess that was kind of the point though, right? Voldemort's dead, everyone's alright, world's a better place? Still...
Overall I'm kind of glad she included an epilogue. It would have killed me not to know what happened to them all afterwards.
Harry and Ginny was okay, but I just couldn't picture Ron and Hermione together!
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