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Great long post, Larael. I reread the book last week, and cried just as hard as the first time, especially when Fred died. I'd never cried so hard over a Harry Potter book, and I was really cut up over Dumbledore too.

Didn't you all love Potterwatch? I thought that was brilliant, such a shoutout (however unintentional) to MuggleCast. I loved the Hermione/Ron relationship, and I'm officially a Neville/Luna shipper. I love Luna, and Neville was my hero in this book. When they went back to Hogwarts and he was all beat up but still harassing the Carrows...*shivers*

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Potterwatch = <3 as I said before. It really gave me a much needed laugh after so much camping about in the wilderness and a seemingly hopeless journey.

@ Nie: Hehe.. yes, I am known quite well for those long posts. Anyway, as you said, the second read was definitely just as emotional as the first.

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"You said: I know that this will hurt, but if I don't break your heart then things will just get worse..."

You hardcore fans might already have touched on the Dursley-topic but I hope you don't mnd me bringing it up again.

Why did Dudley thank Harry for saving his life there? I think I know why, but I want your opinions on it.
What happened to the Dursleys afterwards? Did Rowling say anything about that?

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Dudley definitely had a change of heart. I think, he finally realised that a force bigger than he could imagine was at work. He knew that he was in danger and that he may never see Harry again. No matter how much Dudley had hated Harry [if at all], the fact that they were both family finally shone through.

As for what happened to the Dursley's, all we know is that they went into hiding. I'm sure, afterwards, they went back to living their normal, Dursley-ish lives.

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"You said: I know that this will hurt, but if I don't break your heart then things will just get worse..."

What I want to know is what Petunia was going to say to Harry before the Dursley's left. She's such an interesting character, having grown up with Harry's mum, and even sending a letter to Dumbledore to ask if she could go to Hogwarts as well!

True, Petunia's story is quite interesting after what we learn about her in DH.

Yeah, I sort of agree with you two. Dudley did not choose to become like that, like he didn't choose his own parents. He became who he was because of a very unfortunate childhood, he was spoiled in a way that is close to child abuse. Well, he might not have had the brightest mind (again thanks to his parents) but I agree that he after all, felt sort of a bond to Harry. Like if he had taken Harry for granted up until the moment they were saying the final good bye. - At least that's how I like to interpret it!

So you all think the Dudley family return to their home when Voldemort is gone?

It's a great quote in your sig, Larael. One of Dumbledore's Gandalf-ish truths!

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I like your philosophy Eä. You can't live with someone for so long without forming some kind of bond with them. After Harry saved Dudley's life in OotP I think that bond became more apparent to Dudley more than ever. He almost didn't take Harry for granted.

I dunno if they returned to Privet Drive, but they definitely went back to their normal lives. I could see them moving somewhere far away to sort of start a new life.

And thanks, Eä! It's one of your favourite I know..

Aaand you changed the quote again, Larael.

Well, I'm back, the-person-who-randomly-pops-in-with-random-questions-on-HP.

On patronuses (a very fascinating subject!)
So patronuses can change shape if something drastic happens. So when Tonk's patronus changed from [...] (someone fill in the blank for me!) to [...] (another blank, obviously, I'm not that observant) did it still have the same power as before? I mean does the size matter?

Did Snape's patronus change after Lily's death? Or has it always been the same?
How much can the wizard/witch shape his/her patronus? As I understand it the patronus takes shape of the person's personality... where is the parallel to Snape's character?

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^^^I'll take a stab at answering...
I'm not sure what Tonk's Patronus was previously or even what it changed into. However, her new patronus was NOT as strong as her previous one because the change in her life was negative(i.e Lupin not returning her feelings) I believe that her old patronus returned or her new one became more powerful once Lupin realized they could be together ect. ect.

As far as snape his Patronus was a Doe because Lily's was a doe. It didn't change after her death because that was a strong tie to her that snape could keep, and i'm sure that the memory he used to conjure his Patronus was one with Lily in it.
As far as them taking shape of a person's personality I think that it does fit with snape very well. Everything snape did he did for Lily, whether it worked or not is questionable, but he always did it for her....in essence Lily was snapes personality...

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Thanks for answering, Eruwaedheil.

But for some reason I always saw Hermione's patronus as less powerful than fx Harry's and Ron's because she has more trouble performing the spell. So it also depends on the person's ability to perform the charm? And why is it that the bright Hermione has problems with that exact charm?

*nods* Ohh that makes sense, true, Snape did do everything for Lily so I think you're right.

Hmm... do we know what Dumbledore's and Voldemort's patronuses were? (I know Dumbledore's patronus is never mentioned in the books but perhaps Rowling had said something about it).

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Dumbledore's patronus was a phoenix,I think,about Voldiemort's patronus,no idea

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yes Dumbledore's was a phoenix, as for voldemort I honestly don't think he had one, he wouldnt use it, his soul is ripped in 8 for crying out loud I don't think anyone or anything is more evil than he was so I wouldn't imagine him ever learning or taking the charm seriously. Probably thought there was some other spell more worth his time and effort.
I also recall something in DH about Harry asking Voldemort if he knew what snapes patronus was, but he wouln't know because snape would never have needed to perform that charm when he was with him....that make sense???

As far as hermione having difficulty with the spell, hermione is a practical person, and the patronus charm is about feelings more so that a flick of the wand and a well said spell. Therefore, hermione can't read about it and know how to do it well she has to feel it, control her emotions(which we all know she has a little bit of difficulty with) and whatnot, so it would make sense she would struggle.

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Ah, Snape's patronus.. my favourite subject. I just wrote a fanfic about it changing coincidentally. Anyhoo, I definitely believe that his patronus changed after Lily died. I've heard some say that it never changed, and it was always the same, but I'm a die hard romantic so I still think it changed when Lily died.

As for Voldemort never knowing what Snape's patronus was [and by the by, I don't think Voldie ever had one as well], Snape would have never used his patronus as a Death Eater. Patronuses seem like something that is related with good, and I can't see any of the DE's using them. Besides, if Snape had cast his patronus, that would have completely given away his position.