oooh can i join?

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But of course. Welcome to the club!
Alatariel is rarely around but the club lives thanks to a few really dedicated and loyal posters!

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lol OK thanks!!!!

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You're welcome.
...Well, it seems those 'few dedicated and loyal posters' have been busy over the holidays too. But they will return... *glances anxiously around* I am most certain of that. Larael has been (is) in Texas to spend Christmas with relatives there but she has initiated some really good discussions, hopefully she'll return soon.
In the meantime, please make yourself comfortable and perhaps you would want to discuss some of the questions/'wonderings' I had in my post on the previous page!

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Goodness! For a while there I thought this club had died and gone to club heaven or something. Anyway, I'm glad to see us up and running again. Sorry I've been out for so long. I haven't had much time to come up with any new chapter discussions, but I promise you that as soon I'm back in the country I will have plenty of new things for us to discuss. Until then, I shall answer some of Eä's well put questions.

Actually, the HP symposium is going to be this summer, sometime in July. I'm definitely hoping to attend. All of my cousins have sent in registration and paid their dues, and I'm hoping to do the same in the next few days.



To me it looks as though the snake was burned up in some manner. I know their is a fire-related spell mentioned sometime in the books, but at the moment I can't quite remember what it was. All I'm coming up with is some kind of Latin sounding word that I'm positive is actually a word we use in modern-day English. I shall definitely research a bit more on that.



As we all know by now, Lockhart is a complete phony. His magical abilities are basically nil. He performs outstanding memory charms, but other than that I'm convinced his knowledge of spells, curses, etc. are of the most basic kind, and therefore, he cannot fire any harmful curses at Snape - because he doesn't really know any.



I think Snape may have his suspicions, but at this point he may actually be as clueless as everyone else. I would've thought that if he knew something about it all he would have told someone. Or, he may know more than we think, but he just doesn't let on to that, because it may blow his cover on both sides.


Welcome to the club ~ladyofrohan*!!

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Welcome back Larael, good to see you. I was afraid the club was fading too, especially after seeing it being pushed farther and farther back, frightfully close to the gates of oblivion... partly due to my own lack of posting...but it's alive, it's alive!

This HP symposium sounds positively exciting! Although, I still don't have a clue to what it is!!

Thanks for answering my questions.
First of all, as we all know, I have no idea about spells and charms - even though I find them irresistibly interesting. So I can add absolutely nothing to this.. but yes, it did look like the snake burned before it disappeared.
I just wonder why Snape hesitated so long to remove it as it clearly was a serious threat to the other students. Was he as surprised as everyone else?
Also where would Draco have learned a spell like this? Not in class I suppose. From his dad perhaps?

To the second question. True, Lockhart is pretty useless for anything magical but seeing as he is inviting another professor to a duel, he could at least have tried to utter some counter-spell. Though foolish as he may be and despite the size of his ego might have stood in his way, he isn't completely stupid so he must have tried a spell of some kind...

I watched the movie with a lot more attention to Snape's character this time after having read DH and I really wonder whether Snape knew more about the Chamber of Secrets, after all he was close to Voldemort and Slytherin was his house.

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Squee! *gulps down muffins*

Basically, it'll be a huge gathering of HP fans to discuss aspects of the series as a whole. This particular symposium, titled Portus, goes in depth about the Department of Mysteries, and other such mysteries JKR has left us to wonder about. The whole Snape bit is an add on that someone outside of the symposium is putting together.

Didn't Harry begin talking to the snake in Parsletongue before it was demolished by Snape? He may have been waiting to see how Harry would react before doing anything, but as we can see, he waited much too late. If he had only acted a second sooner, Harry wouldn't have had a chance to talk to the snake in the first place.

Draco's dad is the only person I can think of who would know such a spell, or rather, would be willing to teach it to so young a wizard. I don't think any teacher at Hogwarts would have attempted to teach such a thing.

He did fight back in the movie, didn't he? I can't quite remember. But I do believe he did a spell that Snape successfully blocked.

Ya know, despite the fact that Snape was close to Voldemort [however close you can be to someone who does not really trust anyone], I don't think Voldemort would have confided the whereabouts of the Chamber of Secrets to him. Remember, when Voldy was at school he discovered the Room of Requirement and the Chamber of Secrets which no one else had ever found. By the time he is an adult I still think [and this is one of the Voldemort's weaknesses] that he was naïve enough to believe that no one else had had the knowledge to find those rooms either. Therefore, he would have wanted to keep them a secret.

Wow, so exciting, I really hope you get to go!!

Yes, Harry does speak Parseltongue but only after the snake has come dangerously close to some of the other students. Also it must have been difficult to make it believable in the movie since Harry doesn't start speaking to the snake immediately. So I'll go with the explanation that Snape wants to see how Harry handles it, he is probably hoping that Harry gets humiliated (or perhaps even injured.. just a little bit...)
By the way, after having browsed spells I assume Snape is using an Evanesco charm which makes things disappear. Oh and it said that Malfoy used Serpensortia to conjure the snake.
Man, I'd love to have been Malfoy.. having just learned a brand new spell from his daddy and now finally getting to use it and on his worst enemy!! And additionally in front of his friends and head of the house! Boy, he must have had a field day!

Lockhart must have said some kind of spell but the camera focuses entirely on Snape casting his Expelliarmus.. hmm... I'm sure the book mentions it..
I forgot.. if two wizards uses Expelliarmus at tthe same time against each other, they will both be be thrown back by the powers?

And I agree with you on the last one. Voldemort is and was arrogant!


I was browsing HP spells on Wiki and stumbled upon this under the Avada Kedavra where is said that Lucius Malfoy was about to use the Killing Curse on Harry in CoS after Harry tricked him to free Dobby by giving him a sock. Did anyone hear if he actually says "Avada..." before Dobby throws the counter-spell at him?

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Ooh, good work, Eä! You've done your research quite well. Both of those spells are straight from the book, yes? I've noticed [especially with the last HP film] that the film makers, or rather script writers, have taken to making up a few of their own spells.

*pats teh Draco*

Let's see...



It seems that Snape acted before Lockhart could even attempt to do anything. Although, later he attempts to cover himself up by saying that "it was very obvious what [Snape was] about to do . . . however [Lockhart] felt it would be instructive to let [the students] see". I think we can assume that Lockhart really wasn't going to do anything.

I guess both wizards could be thrown back. I think it all depends upon the power behind it. Expelliarmus is a disarming spell, so we do know that if both cast it at the same time both wizards would be disarmed.

Hmm... I can't quite remember exactly what happened in the movie, but I do know for sure that he never said it in the book. *shrugs*

Why thank you Larael. I tried to go through the spells but gave up under D already... there are too many!!!
Ohh, you've got the actual book quotes, they beat everything from the movie!! I am convinced now that poor Lockhart was so cluelessly arrogant so he was not even trying to defend himself in the duel.

Hmm I do realise it's a bit off Snape-topic... spells.. well, I thought that two equally powerful wizards trying to disarm each other would result in.. nothing, or equal damage.. If Expelliarmus works so well, everyone should want to use it from duelists to Death Eaters... a wizard is nothing without his wand. Anyway, long discussion.

I can't believe if they would have had Lucius to attempt to kill Harry (almost) right in front of Dumbledore with one of the unforgivable curses.. those script writers *shakes head* but even Wiki might be wrong...

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But what if the reason they don't use it is for the exact reason Harry uses it so often? Expelliarmus is one of the simplest of spells, yet it can do so much. It saves Harry's life on numerous occassions, yet people underestimate its power.

True which is why Expelliarmus becomes Harry's trademark - most sympathetic characteristic

I found this YouTube clip by the way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws7GocydlPI

It has all Snape scenes from CoS and among them the duelling scene. Snape wants to 'get rid' of the Snake immediately but is - of course - stopped by Lockhart who throws a useless spell on it.
And additionally I figured that Snapes says Vipera evanesca to destroy the poor snake.


EDIT: And yes, I admit I have had a bit of a fangirlish evening.. *coughcough* on YouTube...

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Aah, so that's it then! Silly Lockhart wants to make up for his lack of spell-firing from earlier and attempts to rid them of the snake himself. Poor dear.. *pats teh Lockhart*

At least the script people used evanesco in the spell. The vipera part just makes it more specific I suppose.

I found something quite interesting today, more pertaining to Alan Rickman than to Snape. Wikipedia states -



I found this quite interesting. You see, I among many other fans I'm sure, have gone hunting for AR interviews many times, and I've found that it's nearly impossible to find any pertaining to Snape. The few I found were from way back when he did PoA. This Wiki entry [which I'm praying is accurate] finally gives me the answer.

I'm not surprised that he stopped speaking about Snape. I'm positive JK Rowling let him in on a few Snape-y secrets before book 7, and if I were him I wouldn't have wanted to spoil anything. That's true dedication right there.

WELCOME back!had good holidays???happpy new year all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ohh really... I'd been wondering why I couldn't find any decent interviews with AR speaking about Snape (oh my god, I'm really becoming a fangirlish stalker...) but this makes sense. Do you know if AR has said anything about Snape now the series has ended?

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No, I don't think he has. He may not want to spoil it for that naïve group of movie-goers who still don't know whether Snape is good or evil. Or he may just not want to talk about Snape. It certainly is a large role that's detracted somewhat from his other work. *shrug*