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What do you call Arwen?
Arwen Undomiel 86%  86%  [ 59 ]
Arwen Evenstar 14%  14%  [ 10 ]
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I almost never call her anything besides plain "Arwen" but I guess I think of her as "Arwen Undomiel" more often because whenever I say "Arwen Evenstar" I think of the other LotR fan site with Arwen in the name :closedeyes: Also, it seems like an Elf should have a pure Elvish name, instead of an English translation for part of the name.

Elrond pronounces "Undomiel" in RotK, making it sound something like:

Oon-doh-mee-ehl

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Thanks Arwen for the pronunciation!!!!!


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Arwen the webmaster wrote:
I almost never call her anything besides plain "Arwen" but I guess I think of her as "Arwen Undomiel" more often because whenever I say "Arwen Evenstar" I think of the other LotR fan site with Arwen in the name :closedeyes: Also, it seems like an Elf should have a pure Elvish name, instead of an English translation for part of the name.

Elrond pronounces "Undomiel" in RotK, making it sound something like:

Oon-doh-mee-ehl


Thanks, Arwen! But I don't know which syllable is stressed. Does anyone know? I have the RotK DVD, but I often watch it with the volume turned down to 5 or 6 because my family is still sleeping during those hours. :bye2:

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Before I found this site I called her Arwen Evenstar, but now I call her Arwen Undomiel because of the site :) I didn't really hear it 'Arwen Undomiel' that often before either. But I pretty much just call her 'Arwen' when I refer to her.

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Elberethsq wrote:
Thanks, Arwen! But I don't know which syllable is stressed.


oh I was just wondering that! If anyone knows that would be great :)

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Elberethsq wrote:
Arwen the webmaster wrote:

Thanks, Arwen! But I don't know which syllable is stressed. Does anyone know? I have the RotK DVD, but I often watch it with the volume turned down to 5 or 6 because my family is still sleeping during those hours. :bye2:


Tolkien put the accent marks to show where to put the stress, so I think Undómiel would be (using Arwen's pronunciation guide) Oon-DOH-mee-ehl :angel:

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Ea's got it right :) If you want to hear it, go to http://elrond.leavesofgold.co.uk/movie/moviequotes3.php and click on the first quote link.

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Thanks!!!!!!


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Eä wrote:
Elberethsq wrote:
Arwen the webmaster wrote:

Thanks, Arwen! But I don't know which syllable is stressed. Does anyone know? I have the RotK DVD, but I often watch it with the volume turned down to 5 or 6 because my family is still sleeping during those hours. :bye2:


Tolkien put the accent marks to show where to put the stress, so I think Undómiel would be (using Arwen's pronunciation guide) Oon-DOH-mee-ehl :angel:


Thanks all of you! You're such a big help! :bye2:

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Can anyone tell me what Arwen means??? I know what Undomiel means now, but what does Arwen mean? :confused:


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I believe it either means 'Noble Maiden' or something along those lines...

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No problem Elberethsq, glad I could be of any help! :angel:

Yes, Arwen means Noble Maiden! That's why the inscription on Hadafang reads Aen estar Hadhafang i chathol hen, thand arod dan i thang an i arwen Referring to Idril Celebrindal as a noble lady, daughter of King Turgon of Gondolin.

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Arwen Undomiel.

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I've to say - really nice question, very interesting!
I call Arwen Undomiel because she's an elf and Undomiel is the elven word for Evenstar. I think you all can see I prefer Undomiel - come on my screen name is Lady Undomiel.


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I perfer the elven names. They sound beautiful, and I am big beleiver in that things always loose just a tiny bit in translation after a while.

Granted to have to use translations initially when dealing with any new launguage!


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huh... i usally say Undomiel but i prefer Little Crying Cow. yeah, she's crying all the time during the RotK :disgust: sorry Arwen-fans, but she's much better in the books...

oh, the book-Arwen? Undomiel

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