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Post subject: Posted: June 20th, 2005, 7:09 pm |
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I almost never call her anything besides plain "Arwen" but I guess I think of her as "Arwen Undomiel" more often because whenever I say "Arwen Evenstar" I think of the other LotR fan site with Arwen in the name  Also, it seems like an Elf should have a pure Elvish name, instead of an English translation for part of the name.
Elrond pronounces "Undomiel" in RotK, making it sound something like:
Oon-doh-mee-ehl
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Post subject: Posted: June 20th, 2005, 8:14 pm |
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Thanks Arwen for the pronunciation!!!!!
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Post subject: Posted: June 20th, 2005, 9:33 pm |
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Arwen the webmaster wrote: I almost never call her anything besides plain "Arwen" but I guess I think of her as "Arwen Undomiel" more often because whenever I say "Arwen Evenstar" I think of the other LotR fan site with Arwen in the name  Also, it seems like an Elf should have a pure Elvish name, instead of an English translation for part of the name. Elrond pronounces "Undomiel" in RotK, making it sound something like: Oon-doh-mee-ehl
Thanks, Arwen! But I don't know which syllable is stressed. Does anyone know? I have the RotK DVD, but I often watch it with the volume turned down to 5 or 6 because my family is still sleeping during those hours. 
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Post subject: Posted: June 20th, 2005, 9:51 pm |
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Before I found this site I called her Arwen Evenstar, but now I call her Arwen Undomiel because of the site  I didn't really hear it 'Arwen Undomiel' that often before either. But I pretty much just call her 'Arwen' when I refer to her.
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Post subject: Posted: June 21st, 2005, 11:32 am |
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Elberethsq wrote: Thanks, Arwen! But I don't know which syllable is stressed.
oh I was just wondering that! If anyone knows that would be great 
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Post subject: Posted: June 21st, 2005, 11:43 am |
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Elberethsq wrote: Arwen the webmaster wrote: Thanks, Arwen! But I don't know which syllable is stressed. Does anyone know? I have the RotK DVD, but I often watch it with the volume turned down to 5 or 6 because my family is still sleeping during those hours. 
Tolkien put the accent marks to show where to put the stress, so I think Undómiel would be (using Arwen's pronunciation guide) Oon-DOH-mee-ehl 
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Post subject: Posted: June 21st, 2005, 7:44 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: June 21st, 2005, 7:46 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: June 24th, 2005, 5:30 pm |
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Eä wrote: Elberethsq wrote: Arwen the webmaster wrote: Thanks, Arwen! But I don't know which syllable is stressed. Does anyone know? I have the RotK DVD, but I often watch it with the volume turned down to 5 or 6 because my family is still sleeping during those hours.  Tolkien put the accent marks to show where to put the stress, so I think Undómiel would be (using Arwen's pronunciation guide) Oon-DOH-mee-ehl 
Thanks all of you! You're such a big help! 
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Post subject: Posted: June 29th, 2005, 8:52 pm |
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Can anyone tell me what Arwen means??? I know what Undomiel means now, but what does Arwen mean? 
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Post subject: Posted: June 29th, 2005, 8:54 pm |
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I believe it either means 'Noble Maiden' or something along those lines...
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Post subject: Posted: June 30th, 2005, 2:30 pm |
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No problem Elberethsq, glad I could be of any help!
Yes, Arwen means Noble Maiden! That's why the inscription on Hadafang reads Aen estar Hadhafang i chathol hen, thand arod dan i thang an i arwen Referring to Idril Celebrindal as a noble lady, daughter of King Turgon of Gondolin.
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Post subject: Posted: July 2nd, 2005, 10:14 pm |
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Arwen Undomiel.
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Post subject: Posted: July 3rd, 2005, 12:32 pm |
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I've to say - really nice question, very interesting!
I call Arwen Undomiel because she's an elf and Undomiel is the elven word for Evenstar. I think you all can see I prefer Undomiel - come on my screen name is Lady Undomiel.
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Post subject: Posted: July 7th, 2005, 2:10 am |
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I perfer the elven names. They sound beautiful, and I am big beleiver in that things always loose just a tiny bit in translation after a while.
Granted to have to use translations initially when dealing with any new launguage!
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Post subject: Posted: July 11th, 2005, 3:56 pm |
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huh... i usally say Undomiel but i prefer Little Crying Cow. yeah, she's crying all the time during the RotK  sorry Arwen-fans, but she's much better in the books...
oh, the book-Arwen? Undomiel
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