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Post subject: Posted: January 10th, 2007, 10:49 am |
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Joined: 02 October 2006 Posts: 2145 Location: the south, USA
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Hello, everybody. Okay first of all old business...
I totally agree that Jack is out for Jack. Personlay I don't think that he had a plan to save Will in PotC DMC. I think that so longs as his skin was safe that he didn't care one way or the other what happened to Will. In my opinion Jack Rarely thinks of anyone other than himself even when he is not in a dire situation. Also sometimes he just doesn't think at all. He just acts on impulse. When he doesn't that everyone pays... (shakes head)
Allright new Business...(deep breath)
Did anybody else watch the People's Choice Awards last night? Well, if you didn't here are the high lights, Johnny Depp won favorite male actor for his role in PotC 2 (Orlando Bloom was over look), Johnny Depp won favorite male actor in an action movie for his role in PotC DMC (Orlando Bloom was over looked), PotC DMC won favorite movie, and (gulp) Jack and Elizabeth won favorite movie couple.  (tries to stay calm) Okay...when I say that Orlando BLoom was over looked I mean tyhat he wasn't even nominated. Which is totally mjust stupid. He so deserved to be nominated and in my opinion to win at least one! He totally got snubbed (pouts a little). Then on a diffferent note Sparrowbeth did indeed win favorite couple, I promise I do not lie on this matter. However what I don't know is wheither or not Will and Elizabeth was nominated. What I'm thinking or rather hoping is that Sparrowbeth only won because they were in reality the people's second favorite couple and that they won because Will and Elizabeth wasn't an opition. Though I have no evidence to back that theory up. I have looked for the nominee list but I can not find one that has the nominees for favorite movie couple...please tell me that somebody knows if Will and Elizabeth were also nominated?! I'm desperate to know!
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Post subject: Posted: January 10th, 2007, 2:01 pm |
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*chokes on juice* jack and Liz? as fave couple? *dies* thats really bad...that'll puff up the egos of the J?E shippers, just what we need, but i think its ok that Johnny won those, he did an amazing job, and Orlando should of been nominated, but we cant change the past...i doubt they were, people are messed up and prefer J and E rather than Will with E...
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Post subject: Posted: January 10th, 2007, 2:18 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: January 10th, 2007, 3:53 pm |
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Joined: 14 September 2006 Posts: 1392 Location: Minas Tirith
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Nooo! The J/E ship must sink!
I was recently on the forum-that-cannot-be-found-except-by-those-who-know-where-it-is, and they had this poll over J/E or W/E, and J/E was ahead by about 30% 
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Post subject: Posted: January 10th, 2007, 5:58 pm |
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Joined: 29 August 2006 Posts: 5815 Location: Dancing under the stars in Lorelindorenan
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Post subject: Posted: January 10th, 2007, 6:08 pm |
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Joined: 04 June 2005 Posts: 4599 Location: Zeh Shire
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Johnny's Fan wrote: I just saw it again for the first time since I first viewed it in the cinema many months ago.
It's hard to put my finger on it, but there's something about DMC that is lacking. The opening has always confused me. Why is Elizabeth alone in the rain? Because Will didn't arrive. OK, then so why has no-one gone to find out why he's not arrived? I'm not one for noticing editing and other film techniques but there were moments in this film where the editing annoyed me. The shots of Lizzie in the rain and Cutler Beckett arriving led me to belive that it was happening silmultaneously, and therefore Will was late just....because. When actually he had been arrested many hours previously, word had not reached Elizabeth of this so she was quite prepared to sit in the rain all day.
Yeah, right.
Omegosh, yes!
I have NEVER, understood that, just yesterday while watching it I mentioned to my friend " I don't understand this scene and I don't like it." I really don't like the opening sequence, it looks out of place,much too dream-like. It just doesn't make sense like that!
Every time the movie starts it ticks me off, and when Beckett comes in on the boats with horses, it seems like a dream! It realyl does! guh...no like-ee.
As for J/E winning favourite couple: i CANNOT believe that. Omeegosh...are you serious!? No! why WHY!?
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Post subject: Posted: January 10th, 2007, 7:50 pm |
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Ms.Gamgee wrote: Johnny's Fan wrote: I just saw it again for the first time since I first viewed it in the cinema many months ago.
It's hard to put my finger on it, but there's something about DMC that is lacking. The opening has always confused me. Why is Elizabeth alone in the rain? Because Will didn't arrive. OK, then so why has no-one gone to find out why he's not arrived? I'm not one for noticing editing and other film techniques but there were moments in this film where the editing annoyed me. The shots of Lizzie in the rain and Cutler Beckett arriving led me to belive that it was happening silmultaneously, and therefore Will was late just....because. When actually he had been arrested many hours previously, word had not reached Elizabeth of this so she was quite prepared to sit in the rain all day.
Yeah, right.
Omegosh, yes! I have NEVER, understood that, just yesterday while watching it I mentioned to my friend " I don't understand this scene and I don't like it." I really don't like the opening sequence, it looks out of place,much too dream-like. It just doesn't make sense like that! Every time the movie starts it ticks me off, and when Beckett comes in on the boats with horses, it seems like a dream! It realyl does! guh...no like-ee. As for J/E winning favourite couple: i CANNOT believe that. Omeegosh...are you serious!? No! why WHY!?
Thanks Altariel. Glad I'm not the only one who agrees with me.
Yay! Ms. Gamgee I need you to speak to my brother - he was really getting annoyed with me when I said the opening was confusing. It confused me in the cinema, and even now when I can fully take the scene in, it doesn't make sense. The only reason that entire suquence exists is so people can say "aww, poor Elizabeth on her wedding day"...but what's the point of that if later on she's not sure if it's Jack she really likes? And anyway, it's unfair on Will for her to even think he hadn't turned up just because, as he's not like that. He would have been there on time, if he hadn't been arrested.
Jack and Elizabeth? No-no. I'm not a huge fan of Will, whereas I love Jack but even I don't like this pairing. For a start Will belongs with Elizabeth and Jack doesn't belong with Elizabeth. Simple...as....that..
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Post subject: Posted: January 10th, 2007, 7:56 pm |
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Joined: 29 August 2006 Posts: 5815 Location: Dancing under the stars in Lorelindorenan
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*gasps*
A nice Jack fan. One who doesn't ship J/E. They're... rare.
*hugs JF* You just made my day.
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Post subject: Posted: January 10th, 2007, 8:02 pm |
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Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 1406 Location: Snape's Dungeon.
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Post subject: Posted: January 10th, 2007, 8:16 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: January 10th, 2007, 9:01 pm |
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Joined: 04 June 2005 Posts: 4599 Location: Zeh Shire
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Johnny's Fan wrote: Thanks Altariel. Glad I'm not the only one who agrees with me.
Yay! Ms. Gamgee I need you to speak to my brother - he was really getting annoyed with me when I said the opening was confusing. It confused me in the cinema, and even now when I can fully take the scene in, it doesn't make sense. The only reason that entire suquence exists is so people can say "aww, poor Elizabeth on her wedding day"...but what's the point of that if later on she's not sure if it's Jack she really likes? And anyway, it's unfair on Will for her to even think he hadn't turned up just because, as he's not like that. He would have been there on time, if he hadn't been arrested.
Jack and Elizabeth? No-no. I'm not a huge fan of Will, whereas I love Jack but even I don't like this pairing. For a start Will belongs with Elizabeth and Jack doesn't belong with Elizabeth. Simple...as....that..
Yeah, that opening sequence it's just...gah....perhaps it'll be soemthing that will make sense later. I dunno, maybe T&T are hiding something in that scene....i have no clue. But I don't think they'd be as silly as to put in an opening shot like that just so people could go "poor lizziiieee" it's not very T&T...so, I hope eventually it'll make sense.
as for the post above me, I hope you dont mind, I know he's your husband and all, but James Norrington is really becoming one of my favourite characters of all time....it's a bit funny, but he's just..gaaahh 
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Post subject: Posted: January 10th, 2007, 9:06 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: January 10th, 2007, 10:00 pm |
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Joined: 02 October 2006 Posts: 2145 Location: the south, USA
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Inwe Calaelen, Hello. We are allways happy to meet more PotC fans.  We're glad to have you here.
Wow, Elizabeth and Jack being voted favorite movie couple has become a huge thing...which is a good thing. Perhaps if we speak out long and loud enough we will ensure that Elizabeth and Will end up together. No offence to any Jack and Elizabeth fans but I really think that I may hate them together. Sadly I must say that the reason that I destest Jack and Elizabeth so much is becuase they are all physical instead of emtional. When was it that we decided to throw out emtionalism for being physical on televison and movies anyway? I can't speak for anybody else but perssonaly I have no inclination to watch such. Give me love over physical anyday and that would be Will and Elizabeth. Well more of Will for Elizabeth the way I see it but still...either way that wouldn't be Not Elizabeth and Jack...I want Elizabeth and Will together...unless Elizabeth keeps fawning for Jack and for whatever reason kissing him...(sigh) Least wise in my opinion. I want romance on my screne and that's that!
Personaly I like the Elizabeth in the rain scene. Though I didn't feel sorry for her....least wise once I watched it for the second and third time. I saw it as Elizabeth getting what she deserved. She went and kissed Jack and she didn't trust Will. Instead she should have been worried about wheither or not Will was okay and that's not the feeling that I got from that scene. To have a breif moment of "is he leaving me" is fine but to actually decide that isn't okay. What she should have done was go out looking for him for his sake Because she should love him enought to put him first.
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Post subject: Posted: January 11th, 2007, 9:58 am |
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Joined: 29 August 2006 Posts: 5815 Location: Dancing under the stars in Lorelindorenan
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Johnny's Fan wrote: Or maybe they put that scene there because they knew practically everyone at AU would make a banner out of it. 
:laugh: Unfortunately, I am guilty there. But my thing is, those are the only pics of Lizzie that I actually like.
The only reason I like the opening sequence at all is because I like the image of Elizabeth sitting in the rain, the teacups filling with water... stuff like that. Other than that I think it was a poorly done scene.
And the bottom line is, I would be SHOCKED if it was actually a J/E ending, so I don't worry too much. Every spoiler I've heard, every quote from cast/crew members, even what the J/E shippers themselves say, points directly towards Will and Elizabeth.
However, this doesn't mean the J/E shippers don't drive me mad. I can't stand them. Like I said, they're perverts. They make me want to scream. Also, they have no idea what they're missing out on! The romance between Will and Elizabeth is really sweet... I don't know why, it just is. Every time I make a new W/E banner or wallpaper, I can't help but think "what in the world are they thinking?"
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Post subject: Posted: January 11th, 2007, 5:33 pm |
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okay people, im sick of talking about J?E shippers, maybe if thats all we can talk about, we should abandon this thread, we know that it bothers many of you, but they are out there, and nothing will change their minds until AWE comes out, so please, can we talk about something else?
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Post subject: Posted: January 11th, 2007, 7:07 pm |
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About the opening scene, I found it quite chilling really. With all of the EITC troops landing, standing in formation, marching and everything. It was almost like something from a totalitarian government. To be honest, I was too eager to see Davy Jones and the Flying Dutchman that I hardly cared about the other characters.
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