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I didn't say you shouldn't talk about the deaths... feel free to do so if you need it.

And the students had had a pretty rough year at Hogwarts... but still... the Killing Curse...? Well.. I said I wouldn't talk much more about the deaths... *stretches*
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*le nod* Personally, I don't think any of the students could've fired the killing curse either. I mean, Harry didn't even do it and he's the most seasoned fighter out of all of them. My worst fear was that JKR would make Harry a murderer. Thank goodness she didn't.

Which brings up another interesting point - If Harry had had to use the killing curse to kill Voldy would his soul have been split? And what about Severus, was his soul split when he killed Dumbledore? I sure hope not.

Just the fact that Harry attempts the Killing Curse (on Bellatrix in HBP and he also does it in DH, aye?) bothered me. It means he is a potential murderer. Didn't suit him... but I understand he has a lot of hatred within him... but I'm glad the supposed love which Dumbledore always emphasized in him won.

Can't say much about the soul-splitting and Voldmort and Harry's connection since I don't remember enough about it. I have a feeling that Rowling tried to avoid that situation...

Why would Snape's soul be split?
He had only killed one man and it was an act of mercy, he never wanted immortality... ehm.. I have a feeling I'm missing out on something here.

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Doesn't matter if you don't want immortality or not, when you kill someone your soul is split. Although the notion that Snape's soul was split is a silly one now since you said that his act of killing Dumbledore was one of mercy [which I whole-heartedly agree with!]. The act behind the murder is probably one of the biggest factors in whether your soul splits or not.

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I thoughts Harry attempts the Crucitious(i know I spelled that very wrong) curse not the killing curse on Bellatrix?? It's been a little bit since i've read it but I thought that's what happened.
In his memory Snape shows Dumbledore talking to snape and snape asking the very question about his soul being split and Dumbledore says something to the effect of his soul would not because he would be commiting an act of mercy and therefore wouldn't need to feel remorse(which puts your soul back together) so i dont' believe his sould would split.

About her notebook, She said that, that is where she references from not only with the Death Eaters but all the Characters, she said in an interview that she has the back stories to all the characters and what happens to them after the war all written down in that notebook and that is what she's going to use to make the encyclopedia.

As far as Dolohov killing Lupin it's perfectly plausible that it happened because they were in a battle-like enviroment and it's perfectly plausible that Lupin got distracted or made a mistake during the duel and Dolohov exploited it. IMHO

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In response to what JF said, the actually soul-splitting doesn't grant oneself immortality. It is the act of making those split pieces into Horcruxes. If Bellatrix had made a piece of her soul into a Horcrux then yes, she wouldn't have been killed. So, your soul can be split by the act of killing without mercy/remorse or not in the name of others' protection, but you will not having immortality unless you turn that piece of soul into a Horcrux.

very well said Larael^^
Although I am very shocked that Bellatrix hadn't made her split soul into a Horcrux.....Maybe she wasn't skilled enough or perhaps Voldemort would have forbidden her from doing such. Because then he wouldn't be the only one to cheat death and I don't think he would like that especially from one of his followers.....thoughts anyone??

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I'm feeling like a child watching an adult conversation and only understanding parts of it... but I'm gonna give my view anyway.

Splitting one's soul into Horcruxes takes a lot of knowledge and skill of the Dark Arts, aye? In my understanding one would have had to study how to do it and really be into the darker magic to be able to perform it. So Bellatrix might not have had the skill - or even known about that kind of magic.

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Right on it you are, Eä. I agree with you. I doubt that any of Voldemort's followers knew he had made Horcruxes or even knew Horcruxes existed. Some may have guessed, as Regulus Black did, but I doubt any of them ever tried to make a Horcrux. Most may not have known that their soul could even be split.

Well I agree and disagree. I think that they would know that killing someone would split your soul, furthermore I do think the Death Eaters would know about Horcrux's for a few reasons. One they are adult wizards and I think that their intelligence is not that limited...in most cases. Two Most Death Eaters have come from families where there was a history of a love of Dark magic and thus i'm sure it would at least be mentioned. Now, I do agree with skill level. Voldemort was a very powerful wizard and his skill level was above most SO I could see the death eaters not having skill enough to perform such a spell to make a Horcrux work but I highly doubt they wouldn't have any knowledge of them at all. Does that make sense??

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It does, but I still don't really know how much a DE would know about Horcruxes. I mean, Dumbledore didn't really know anything about them either and he's way up there with Voldy. Snape didn't even know about them, and he's pretty high up their too. At least, I think he's a bit more clever than the average DE.

It could go either way methinks.

I think Dumbledore did know about the Horcruxes he knew a lot about them actually he just wasn't EXACTLY sure on how voldemort got his information and how many he had and what not but he def. knew them and disliked them very much. I think snape was prob. similar....

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Hmm.. I'll concede that you're right about Dumbledore. After all, he had to know about them in order to take them out of the library. However, I still don't think Snape really knew about them. *shrugs* We could keep this up all day.

I'm still confused about how the Fidelius Charm worked on Grimmauld Place. Obviously the trio could see it, but the DE's could not. How then, if they apparated to the top step, does that allow Yaxley to get into Grimmauld Place. Or did I miss something? Did they actually apparate directly into it?

When Bathilda calls "Come!" to Harry from her sitting room, why doesn't Hermione realise that she's speaking in Parseltongue?

Why was Filch allowed to stay at Hogwarts? Aren't Squibs as bad as Muggle-Borns in Voldy's eyes?

Yeah, I'm taking these from an earlier post of mine, but they still haven't been speculated on. I mean, of course nobody knows the real answers except JKR herself, but I'd like a wee bit of help speculating. Got 'bout 2 more questions after these...