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Post subject: Posted: July 31st, 2008, 2:15 pm |
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Nuuuuuu not the Riddler. I've heard the same rumour and do not want.
Just no.
*shudder*
My personal preference would be Talia, Ra's Al Ghul's daughter. But I don't know if they'd delve that deep. But she makes perfect sense to the movie storyline.
Either way it'll be a good while before it happens. Christian Bale is currently filming the new Terminator movie and is signed on for 3 of them as well. But I know he does want to do another Batman movie so there is still hope. Just NO Riddler...pleasssssssssseee *flutters eyelashes@ Chris Nolan*
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Post subject: Posted: July 31st, 2008, 2:25 pm |
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^ You don't like the character of the Riddler? I'm surprised, as I thought he was one of the majors and that you would like him.
Personally, I don't want any female villains. They can't make the the female good guys, good enough and I dread any sexual tension between Batman and the villainess. And that's going to happen, I just know it is. You can't have two people of the opposite sex in films these days without something going on.
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Post subject: Posted: July 31st, 2008, 2:56 pm |
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I've never ever been a fan of the Riddler. Awful, awful villain. I'd rather have a new Mr Freeze than Riddler...and yes I am serious.
If the two females were Talia or Catwoman, then there would be sexual tension as that's how it is in the comic, and being the geek that I am I'd fully expect that in the movie if they were to make either of them a villain. If they cast as well with either of them as they have with the male cast then I'd have no issue with it.
Another choice, would be Bane. Bane done by Chris Nolan would rock hard...and would be an intense way to end the trilogy, and possibly set up a new trilogy with a broken Bruce having to give up the Batman mantle to a newer, younger, fit man.
-innergeekgasm- AZRAEL!! done by Chris Nolan *faints*
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Post subject: Posted: July 31st, 2008, 3:24 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: July 31st, 2008, 4:49 pm |
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It was Lucius who made the comment about the cats when showing Bruce the new suit.
Another rumour mill is Angelina Jolie for Catwoman. Julie Newmar aka the greatest live action Catwoman ever, mentioned it in an interview (I'll try and look it out). That in no way guarantees anything, because if there is a third movie it won't be for ages yet due to Christians commitment to Terminator: Salvation.
Back to Catwoman, like it or not there is tension between Selina/Catwoman and Bruce/Batman. There's no escaping it, I and other comic book geeks would be mighty p...er ticked off if they glossed over that.
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Post subject: Posted: July 31st, 2008, 5:08 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: July 31st, 2008, 5:25 pm |
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Jayef, I think it was probably your cinema's copy of the tape, as ours was appropriately background music at that point, not foreground. ^_^
Okay. My opinions on the villains:
The Penguin -- Big nono. He can't really be done realistically, so he probably won't be used by Nolan.
The Joker -- Heath is dead. 'nuff said.
Harley Quinn -- Not likely. Two movies in a row with a psychotic/crazy villain? I can't imagine that that would be popular with the average moviegoer.
The Riddler -- Possible. He's much more stable than the Joker, and he has his awesome/hysterical weakness, which is that he has OCD and is incapable of committing a crime without leaving a clue behind. Could be a very interesting plot device, though I'm not sure if Nolan would want to have a character that's so similar to the Joker in a sequel.
Talia al'Ghul -- I can't imagine that they'd use her. At any rate, I very much cringe to think of it. For starters, there'd be the sexual tension between her and Batman, which I definitely have never appreciated. Then, there's also the fact that she'd have to be almost as cool as Ra's, and I like to think of him as having been the last of his family. Plus... Spiderman--> Spiderman 3, anyone? I don't like it when the child of a villain ends up opposing the hero as well after their parent was defeated. It's unoriginal. And annoying.
Bane -- Possible. Would be very interesting. Would likewise be kind of freaky. And, tbh, I don't like the thought of Bale's Batman losing to anyone, much less getting his back broken. <_<
Mr. Freeze -- NONONO! Very, very, very, fervent, NO. I'd never be able to see past Batman and Robin. Bleh.
Ivy -- Likewise.
Catwoman -- Eh, I've never been a fan of hers, but Nolan could pull her off.
Scarecrow -- Well, he's already had his movie. And a cameo. I think that he's pretty much out of the series, unless he ends up getting a cameo during an interior shot of Arkham...
And if I'm forgetting any major villains, remind me and I'll rate them, too.
I sort of hope that it will be an original villain. 
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Post subject: Posted: July 31st, 2008, 5:41 pm |
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..so basically you don't want anyone then 
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Post subject: Posted: July 31st, 2008, 5:45 pm |
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...not quite.  I'm open to Bane, Harlequin, and The Riddler.  That's three. And I'm sure I'm forgetting several characters, too.
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Post subject: Posted: July 31st, 2008, 6:06 pm |
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Not Catwoman, please.
Sorry, but I don't like her at all. Besides the fact that she's a bit overrated and she had her own film (well, now Heath's Joker is getting a bit overrated too, but he hasn't got his own film yet  )
I bet for Harley Quinn and the Riddler. Also for the Penguin and Poison Ivy, but it's confirmed that they won't appear for being unrealistic.
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Post subject: Posted: July 31st, 2008, 6:14 pm |
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Joker's not overrated...he's just awesome. Catwoman was decidedly not. <_<
Oh, hey, Jayef. When people were calling Harvey the White Knight, it was a reference (I might be mistaken) to the typical "Knight in Shining Armour" who always does the right thing, never compromises his morals, and doesn't back off in the face of danger. That is the way that Harvey appeared to the general populace, but we, being the audience, were given more clues to his real character, like when he was interrogating Schiff after Gordon's "death". And the two-headed coin that he used to make his own luck. So that's why I think he was called Two-face. Not only does he have to drastically different sides of his face, but he also has a much darker side that most people didn't see, but which was brought out by Rachel's death and aided by the Joker.
See, I think that Harvey was the Joker's greatest crime. Harvey's actions were the culmination of the Joker's plan. To break Gotham, the Joker first had to show that its heroes were fallible and corruptible. Hence, Harvey, because even though he appeared to be the best, he was also the weakest and most torn--he had been tempered by fire and was still burning. Gordon had been through too much, likewise, and Batman is too selfless. So Harvey was the weak point. The White Knight was not as strong as the Silent Guardian or the Cop. That's one of the things that's so awesome about the movie--it's all portrayed as "Harvey's Story," really, but everything is all part of the Joker's plan, and Harvey is just a pawn. Which was awesome. 
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Post subject: Posted: July 31st, 2008, 6:45 pm |
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Catwoman had her own film? Sorry no...no she didn't. That Halle Berry abomination was absolutely nothing to do with Catwoman.
Agreed that Joker is not overrated. He is one of comics greatest villains of all time.
I do understand Catwoman may not be to everyone's taste. But I love her to bits. I'd be interested in what Chris Nolan could do with the character.
I still say a rapturous Yes for Bane. Difficult to cast though. How do you get a guy that is that huge and be able to act well too? Bane deserves better treatment than his prior incarnation as the Sabretooth of the Batman movies. The Sabretooth problem has been rectified, it's time for Bane to get some vindication.
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Post subject: Posted: August 1st, 2008, 9:10 am |
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Lol, I was quite fortunately spared from that Halle Berry nightmare. I'm just hoping that if Catwoman is in the movies that she's not like Pfeiffer's. That was horrendous.
So, I was thinking about how Bane could be in the movie, Phoenix, and I realised something important (and marginally disappointing). It wouldn't be possible to make use of the original Introduction-of-Bane plotline. If you recall, Bane beat Batman because he (Batman) was exhausted from recapturing all of the criminals that Bane had let out of Arkham. So Batman was exhausted and not on the top of his game. And I don't think that Nolan could portray that so well--at least not the spending-days-recapturing-escaped-criminals thing. Another negative to the hopes of Bane being the villain is that if Batman's back was broken, that would be a tragic finish to Batman, because from what I've seen of Nolan's method, he wouldn't introduce a character that Batman would turn the mantle over to--not in just one movie. So I'm pretty sure it wouldn't happen like that. Though, if Bane didn't break Batman's back, or if he broke it at the beginning of the movie and Lucius came up with a way to heal it by the end, then that would be cool. 
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Post subject: Posted: August 1st, 2008, 10:32 am |
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^ Oooh, I like your thoughts on Harvey. They really make you think. 
You'll have to forgive me for thinking you comic-book fans are a little bit nutty with all your talk, as I can't really share your level of enthuisasm as I just don't know enough about Batman villains. [you should seem me though on things I do know about, I'm completely nutty then ]
I just get the feeling someone will be disappointed though. Although Batman Begins had no villains that non-comic fans would recognise, it was the start of the story and perhaps having some weird pyscho killers wouldn't be the best way to go. But now I'm thinking, they're more likely to use one of the better known villains. Either male or female. I'm not sure why the Penguin or the Riddler couldn't be done well, but too me, they are two that I am familiar with, so I would go with either of them.
BTW, Two-Face was meant to have killed 5 people, as it was mentioned that Batman would have to be the murderer instead of Harvey. Who were the 5 people though? I could only count 4. The policeman in the bar, the mobster and his driver.. and I've forgotten the 4th one. 
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Post subject: Posted: August 1st, 2008, 10:54 am |
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Lol, Jayef. Maybe it's a sign that I've thought about this movie too much already.
Let's see. Harvey definitely killed Wuertz and Maroni's driver, but Maroni himself might have survived, and Ramirez survived as well. But that's only four, so I don't know who the fifth was supposed to be (it's very likely that Gordon thought that Harvey had killed all of those people, since they wouldn't really have had time to be found/declared alive). So I don't know who the fifth person was.
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